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re: ESPN - Let Zion Williamson choose where he wants to play next
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:54 pm to FightnBobLafollette
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:54 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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It was stupid. It isn’t an apt comparison.
I’m not gonna continue w it.
You seem to be fine with someone choosing the military and the responsibility of being stationed where you are chosen
And yet don’t seem to grasp the same concept with the NBA.
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:57 pm to FightnBobLafollette
quote:
I’m not gonna continue w it.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
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In the NBA, a first-round pick who shows promise is effectively under the control of the team that drafted him for the first seven seasons of his career. This means that in the most formative years of their professional development, the most talented young men in basketball are given no agency to decide what most of us take for granted: where we will live, work and put down roots in our adult lives.
As Anthony Davis was preparing to become the No. 1 pick in the 2012 NBA draft, I wrote a piece proposing the NBA ditch the draft. Though the idea was presented as a fix for tanking, I also wanted to emphasize the principle of fair labor. I suggested that among the effects stemming from the abolition of the draft "would be a likely uptick in retention. A young player who chooses his destination based on his personal criteria is far more likely to stick around long term."
Freedom of choice for players should be a sacrosanct principle, particularly in a league that claims to value meritocracy. Looking at the roster of NBA owners, it's hard to believe that these billionaire proprietors, many of them self-made, don't subscribe to that virtue. Can you imagine if Memphis Grizzlies owner Robert Pera -- who, upon graduating from UC San Diego with a master's in engineering, chose to take his skills to Apple -- was instead asked by some governing authority in big tech, "Where don't you want to go?" then promptly assigned there?
Does this idiot not know that David Griffin runs the Pelicans as opposed to the dumpster fire that is the Lakers organization? Dude's straight up acting as if Dell Demps is still the GM!
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:06 pm to FightnBobLafollette
quote:Well what exactly are you advocating for in this situation?
It is sad that conservative don’t have it.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:55 am to FightnBobLafollette
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There is only one google. Or MS. Or top 30 tech companies.
Yeah there are thousands of tech companies
1 Basketball league
The mistake is comparing the teams to the different companies.
There is 1 company with franchises
The Pelicans May have their own owner but they’re nothing without the NBA.
The players can always play in Europe.
But if they want to play in the US we h fortunately have a monopoly with specific rules.
If Google said: we have a job opening in California, and no where else: either you move or you don’t get the job.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 12:57 am
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:06 am to Crowknowsbest
There is a downside to sporting Monopolies.
We accept the NFL, NBA NHL and MLB as the only industries in those sports.
We accept the NFL, NBA NHL and MLB as the only industries in those sports.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 4:42 am to SammyTiger
I always think it's very amusing when staunch, anti-socialists are extremely pro-socialism when it comes to pro sports and athletes. Why should the worst performing and worst managed teams be rewarded with the best future talent? Shouldn't the opposite be true? These sort of people also usually are the ones that are very angry when someone holds out for more money or forces a trade, as if they wouldn't leave their company in a heartbeat for more money or a better job elsewhere if they could.
It's very ironic that the "socialist" euroleagues are completely capitalistic when it comes to athletes. Relegation is an excellent system, although of course its much easier to do in soccer than football.
The draft is a farce. Now Zion may have ended up in a decent spot with NO having new management,but we'll see. Kudos to athletes like Bo and Elways for telling bad organizations to shove it and using their leverage to make better deals elsewhere.
It's very ironic that the "socialist" euroleagues are completely capitalistic when it comes to athletes. Relegation is an excellent system, although of course its much easier to do in soccer than football.
The draft is a farce. Now Zion may have ended up in a decent spot with NO having new management,but we'll see. Kudos to athletes like Bo and Elways for telling bad organizations to shove it and using their leverage to make better deals elsewhere.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 4:43 am
Posted on 6/19/19 at 4:51 am to EarlyCuyler3
It's strange when people try to act like a sports league is comprised of separate corporations. Its all the same organization. When you join whatever team you are still governed and monitored by the league offices. Teams are just branches or divisions of the parent organization. None of the teams can exist independently. They are all dependent on each other..
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:10 am to brmark70816
Uh, they are all separate organizations. They have individual owners.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:55 am to EarlyCuyler3
They are shareholders and don't really own anything. They are no different than an owner of a McDonald's. They own a franchise and have rights. But it can be taken from them at any time and they have to operate under strict guidelines. Some McDonald's are in better areas, do much better business, better quality of food and more choices. But at the core, still a McDonald's.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 6:16 am to brmark70816
Takes a 3/4ths vote from other owners.
But that's kind of beside the point I think. The main point is that other professional sports dont have a draft and function as well or even better than the American pro sports leagues.
American sports leagues have set themselves up as a monopoly that has far too much control over the players that actually make the league what it is.
But that's kind of beside the point I think. The main point is that other professional sports dont have a draft and function as well or even better than the American pro sports leagues.
American sports leagues have set themselves up as a monopoly that has far too much control over the players that actually make the league what it is.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 6:29 am
Posted on 6/19/19 at 6:18 am to wildtigercat93
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Not something anyone is entitled to.
I'm not saying they're entitled to it. I'm saying the athletes are in literally the only American industry where they have no choice on location, and that would be a drawback, which it undoubtedly is. I don't see what's so controversial about that.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 6:18 am to SammyTiger
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If Google said: we have a job opening in California, and no where else: either you move or you don’t get the job.
Google wouldn't say that to their top candidate, realistically.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 6:19 am
Posted on 6/19/19 at 7:02 am to RLDSC FAN
This is why you should not watch ESPN anymore. Unless it's a live game
Posted on 6/19/19 at 7:45 am to EarlyCuyler3
I thinknits Funny when people co fuse socialism with business practice.
Distributing talent to produce a better product within 1 business has nothing to do with socialism.
Distributing talent to produce a better product within 1 business has nothing to do with socialism.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 7:54 am to EarlyCuyler3
They’re Franchises.
They’re is 1 business and it is the NBA the NFL.
Google doesn’t need to compete with Amazon or Apple to exist. The Saints couldn’t do much without the other 31 teams.
They’re is 1 business and it is the NBA the NFL.
Google doesn’t need to compete with Amazon or Apple to exist. The Saints couldn’t do much without the other 31 teams.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:07 am to wildtigercat93
quote:actually he'd need to be 27
hear the Big 3 league is looking for talent. He’s free to sign there.
quote:they actually probably do
So the NBA needs more teams?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:14 am to RLDSC FAN
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Can you imagine if Memphis Grizzlies owner Robert Pera -- who, upon graduating from UC San Diego with a master's in engineering, chose to take his skills to Apple -- was instead asked by some governing authority in big tech, "Where don't you want to go?" then promptly assigned there?
Didn't realize the tech sector was a government approved entertainment monopoly where only 30 companies are allowed to operate.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:17 am to RLDSC FAN
Only thing I would say is a player should be able to do what he wants after 3 years. The team that drafted him should be able to get some extra benefit to resigning him after 3 years but that's it. Controlling a guy for the first 7 years of his development is a bit extreme.
No way in hell should a guy get to pick where he gets to play from the beginning though. The league would fold.
No way in hell should a guy get to pick where he gets to play from the beginning though. The league would fold.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:17 am to RLDSC FAN
are they trying to ruin pro sports? because this is how you ruin pro sports.
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