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re: Drew Brees omitted from NFL’s all-time team
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:What part of at the time of his retirement did you not comprehend?
Ever hear of Eras?
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:15 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:He's top 5 basically any possible way you evaluate how well the QB position was played.
Brees top 5 again
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:16 pm to shel311
quote:
MVPs are laughable to use.
Of course they are, cause Drew has never won one.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:17 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Brees is wayyyy better than playoff Brady.
Except Brady doesn't choke in the playoffs like Brees does.
And playoff Brees offenses score more points, more yards, and less turnovers than Brady.
So nah, you're wrong.
And you also changed the subject really quick because you know you said something stupid.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:18 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Why didn't you quote literally my next sentence?
Of course they are, cause Drew has never won one
Try being a little less disingenuous with your next post, that attempt was sad.
quote:
And to be fair, I've said that for as long as I've posted on this board, so it's not a new take just because it doesn't benefit Brees.
Go on, respond to that, I'll wait...
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:18 pm to Bench McElroy
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Not a Saints fan by any means but it's a joke that Elway and Staubach made the list over Brees.
Look Brees should have been on this list but thats a clown comment re: Elway and Staubach
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:19 pm to Fus0623
If Brees had played in Staubach Era he would have been physically destroyed by year 3.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:19 pm to slackster
11 of the top 12 all time passer ratings are active qbs. I am not sure that brees is better than his peers more than the others were better than their peers. That’s something you can do if you wanna.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:19 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Ever hear of Eras?
You just spout stats like the two played against each other last week.
Yeah, and Alex Smith has a greater career passer rating than Dan fricking Marino.
I did account for era which is why I specifically mention "at the time of his retirement." From his own era, Fran Tarkenton, John Hadl, Roman Gabriel, Norm Snead, Bob Griese, Jim Hart, Joe Namath, and Daryl Lamonica all had more career touchdown passes than Stabler. Tarkenton, Hadl, Snead, Hart, Namath, Charley Johnson, and Bob Griese also had more career passing yards. Also, Stabler and Tarkenton had a higher career completion percentage. What case does Staubach have for being a greater QB than Fran Tarkenton who put up far better statistical numbers?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Elway unequivocally did not play the position better than Brees.
Look Brees should have been on this list but thats a clown comment re: Elway and Staubach
Not in absolute terms. Not related to his peers. In no way was he better than Brees.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:20 pm to Bench McElroy
The only one I could find an issue with is Staubach.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:21 pm to RollTide1987
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The NFC South is practically the MAC of NFL Football so it actually makes sense.
Brees is a system QB and has been for his whole career. The voters were thankfully intelligent enough to get this.
Right? Great sarcastic point in support of BreesPosted on 12/27/19 at 10:22 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Drew compares more favorably than Brady, Manning and Favre, so they should be off the list, I guess?
11 of the top 12 all time passer ratings are active qbs. I am not sure that brees is better than his peers more than the others were better than their peers. That’s something you can do if you wanna.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:22 pm to udtiger
quote:Favre is easily the most egregious imo.
The only one I could find an issue with is Staubach.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:23 pm to shel311
quote:
Elway unequivocally did not play the position better than Brees
That’s debateable. Both should have been on the list.
I think your real gripe is Favre
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:26 pm to shel311
I am not so sure about that. The people have spoken. Brees isn’t top 10 according to NFL.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Definitely
I think your real gripe is Favre
But disagree on Elway. For example, Elway's best passer rating season, he was 16 points ahead of the 16th ranked due in passer rating.
I looked at 2009 for Brees, not his best passer rating season, he was 26 points ahead of the dude ranked 16th.
Brees was better than his peers at a higher clip than Elway was.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:27 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:I am, because there is data to look at for these guys. The data is there.
I am not so sure about that.
quote:You probably don't even know who voted. I can't name one person, no reason for me to put any stock into it.
The people have spoken
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:28 pm to shel311
quote:
Favre is easily the most egregious imo.
he did win three mvp's though right?
he threw a lot picks but he also played for teams with way more history than Brees-Saints.
Favre was beloved.
hell they changed the OT rule right after he and the Vikes lost to the Saints.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:29 pm to shel311
An Esteemed panel of former players, coaches, and front office.
This is the equivalent of the nba players awarded mvp. Not voted on by media, but by peers.
This is the equivalent of the nba players awarded mvp. Not voted on by media, but by peers.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 10:33 pm
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