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re: Drew Brees is the unluckiest QB of all time. Stats to prove it

Posted on 1/23/21 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 5:06 pm to

OK.. Tell me what you would rather... Better stats or more titles?????



Titles come from a team, not an individual. But if you're building a team and you have a choice between 2 QBs, what are you going to base it off of? You'd take Dilfer over Marino? Dan Marino didn't win any titles because he didn't have a team around him. He was the team.

With your logic Adam Vinatieri is the best Fg kicker to ever play the game. We can just go down the list of players with the most titles and call them the best or greatest at their position.


There are a few better than Brady but none as lucky.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:37 pm to
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When you know your defense sucks you need to manage the clock appropriately

intersting

Drew Brees offenses not only rank higher in scoring than Brady, they also rank higher in time of possession

What’s next geniuses?
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10836 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:44 pm to
frick Drew Brees. Supports a criminal.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:52 pm to
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What’s next geniuses?


Only that Brady will be #1 all-time in passing yards and TDs this time next year.

But at least you’ll still have your spreadsheet.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:57 pm to
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Only that Brady will be #1 all-time in passing yards and TDs this time next year
True, in roughly 30 more games
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7932 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:00 pm to
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Elway took FIVE teams to the SB.. Marino led his team to one.....


So Jim Kelly and Eli Manning were better than Marino?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:01 pm to
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Played in the same era

Elway

56.9%—220 yards/game—4.1 td%—3.1 int%—79.9 rating

Marino

59.4%—253.6 yards/game—5.0 td%—3.0int %—86.4 rating


You’re ignoring attempts per game, Elway’s rushing ability, and the fact that his coach was running once they got within the 10 while Marino would still be passing.

Marino is the better passer of the two, but they are equal in terms of all-time rank at QB (both in the top ten).
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:01 pm to
Pride isn’t a GW drive considered any drive that puts a team ahead for good in 4th qtr. so you get credit for it at any time in the 4th?

So how many of these perceived blown game winners happened before the 3 minute mark by the Saints
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:02 pm to
He’s 1,100 yards behind Brees.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:02 pm to
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You’re ignoring attempts per game
Umm, do you understand how Td and int% and passer rating work?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:02 pm to
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He’s 1,100 yards behind Brees
And he has already played 14 games more than Brees.....
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:03 pm to
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And he has already played 14 games more than Brees.....


Don’t care, had sex.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:05 pm to
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Pride isn’t a GW drive considered any drive that puts a team ahead for good in 4th qtr. so you get credit for it at any time in the 4th?

It depends. For this particular study I beleive it was under 2 minutes

I find it statistically impossible Brady teams would have only given up a score any time in the 4th qtr.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:06 pm to
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Don’t care, had sex and bastard children.
Typical problem in America. Having children out of wedlock and with multiple different women
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140501 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:15 pm to
So you’re not sure? I’m taking it as they used the Denver Bronco method that gave Elway 47 game winners then. Any drive that put a team ahead in the 4th
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 8:17 pm
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7932 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:21 pm to
An amazing stat for Marino is that with almost 8400 pass attempts he was only sacked 270 times in his career. Compare Elway, he had 1,000 fewer attempts and was sacked 518 times in his career.
Marino was magical in the pocket, and along with his quick release was impossible to sack
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:24 pm to
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So you’re not sure?
Correct

But I will say this, if Brady defenses only gave up the lead 4 times in the entirety of the 4th qtr after being put ahead, that is the best defense of all time to be given to a QB
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140501 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:27 pm to
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I will say this, if Brady defenses only gave up the lead 4 times in the entirety of the 4th qtr after being put ahead, that is the best defense of all time to be given to a QB



Or it’s an indictment on how CSP and the DC’s for the Saints managed the game and situations
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7932 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:27 pm to
Brady never played with a defense ranked outside of the top 10
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19474 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:33 pm to
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What’s next geniuses?

I can’t think of what you have next for us

You’ve resorted to arguing about “luck”

This is your world.
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