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re: Do you need to be more athletic to play 2nd base or 3rd?

Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:19 am to
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6051 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:19 am to
quote:

U can have a quick glove and be a poor 2nd baseman bc u have no range/good feet etc.


Scott Rolen and Adrian Beltre both come to mind on this...they both have two of the best gloves in the league at the hot corner but they're slow as molasses.
This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 11:20 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91338 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Do you need to be more athletic to play 2nd base or 3rd?


2nd Baseman typical pros vs. 3rd baseman:

Range
Speed (Basepaths)
Bunting ability
Contact hitter

3rd baseman pros vs. 2nd baseman:

Arm Strength
Power hitter
General strength

I think glove work is a push at both positions.

You decide which of those characteristics are "more athletic"
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
1872 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:43 am to
quote:

2nd basemen seem to be more athletic as a whole, but 3rd is the more difficult position to play.

2nd basemen have to cover more ground, but 3rd has to have better reflexes and a very good arm.

I played both. This comment is spot on...
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46374 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:46 am to
Try putting a slow-footed, good reflexed, strong armed player at 2B and let me know how that works out for ya.......

You don't have to be very athletic to play 3B.......just able to glove a ball and make an accurate throw.

2B has to cover lots of ground.....work with the SS.....take cut-off throws on a regular basis....turn double plays......have better footwork.....etc.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28164 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:50 am to
quote:

2nd basemen seem to be more athletic as a whole


no way. 2nd is easiest position on the field besides RF.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28164 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:52 am to
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2B has to cover lots of ground.....work with the SS.....take cut-off throws on a regular basis....turn double plays......have better footwork.....etc.


bolded is the only thing that is athletic.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154175 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:55 am to
quote:

2nd is easiest position on the field besides RF



in a little league game w/ few if any left handed hitters yes

in the majors -- no
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46374 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:56 am to
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bolded is the only thing that is athletic.




quote:

turn double plays......have better footwork.....


yeah...ok

If you don't think...for the most part...in HS/College/Pro....that 2B is more of an athletic position, then
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288465 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:10 pm to
3rd is harder to play than 2nd. But you have to be a slightly better athlete to play 2nd. Just because there is more lateral moving and general running.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46374 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Lester Earl


quote:

3rd is harder to play than 2nd




Only because you have a much greater chance of having a screamer hit at you with little time to react.......I'll give you that.

As far as it being more physically demanding.....no
Posted by wild877
Member since Jul 2010
390 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:44 pm to
in reading all the posts it is clear to me that you need to define your idea of athletic



For what its worth I feel that 3rd is the more difficult position, but under the classic idea of athleticism including speed, agility, etc. I would tend to believe that 2nd baseman are, in general, "more athletic"
This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 1:49 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91338 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:50 pm to
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in reading all the posts it is clear to me that you need to define your idea of athletic


+1
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44145 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:56 pm to
2nd base has more athletic players than 3rd.

There is a reason that they move old cathers to 3rd base and not 2nd. And no Biggio wasn't old when they moved him.
This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69562 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:22 pm to
I played some of both. I preferred 3rd b/c I always fielded the hard hit balls better than the slow rollers(more react than think). Also first time I played 2nd the game prior to ours the 2nd basemen got taken out turning a double play and had a compound fracture of his shin bone(when you see a guy thrashing around in pain with blood all over his leg it scares the piss out of you). I didn't like the thought of having my back to the runner.

Also 2nd base you had more balls hit with weird spin than at SS and 3rd. When I played most 2nd basemen were good fielders but small.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6077 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:27 pm to
Matters what you consider athletic..

2nd baseman usually play pretty far back and they have to cover a lot of ground, but more have time and room to cover it.. They usually don't have to through very far, and usually aren't power hitters

3rd baseman has to have a good arm, and be able to judge quick grounders, line drives, and bunts while not having to cover quite as much area

I believe 3rd is harder

a 3rd baseman will almost always be bigger, and stronger than a 2nd baseman

a 2nd baseman will almost always be smaller, faster, and very agile so.. yeah
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:35 pm to
2nd. by a lot.



3rd is just reflexes and an arm and the willingness to come in for the bunt while knowing someone may hit one right down your teeth.

PS: 3rd is the easiest position on the field. not much running, no athletic jumps & turns. the toughest play is coming in fast to get a ball at your feet and making a throw. all the other positions have more challenging issues.

I usually caught. I got to play 3B as a rest day.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

3rd is the easiest position on the field.
First.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73951 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:41 pm to
Charging and fielding a bunt and making a throw on the run is the toughest play to make on the infield.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69562 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

PS: 3rd is the easiest position on the field. not much running, no athletic jumps & turns. the toughest play is coming in fast to get a ball at your feet and making a throw. all the other positions have more challenging issues.


I couldn't disagree more.

If SS is the best athlete how come a lot of SS and 3rd basemen are interchangeable? A 2nd basemen generally has to weak of an arm to play the left side of the infield and are usually the weakest hitters on the field. Faster doesn't mean a better athlete in baseball. It doesn't matter how fast you run if you can't hit.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

If SS is the best athlete how come a lot of SS and 3rd basemen are interchangeable?
They are not. When SS start to lose their range they transition to 3rd.
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