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re: Did BCS/modern era Notre Dame still have higher academic requirements for recruits?
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:13 am to BGLAVI2
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:13 am to BGLAVI2
Most schools have special degree programs for athletes called something like sports psychology, sports education, sports administration, etc.
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:19 am to ArkLaTexTiger
Most schools give academic waivers for athletes. However, some still attract a higher caliber of student. ND is a great example.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:23 am to cyarrr
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Stanford on the other hand doesn’t lower it’s requirements.
Cough bullshite cough
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:32 am to BGLAVI2
The academic standard for athletes were lowered when Lou Holtz was HC at ND. Shortly after he left, the higher standards were reinstated. They have remained in place ever since.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:38 am to BGLAVI2
I believe they were lowered during the Lou Holtz era but raised back to regular and academic standards when he left.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
LINK
This article gives a really good overview of how ND approaches academics and sports.
It looks like the issue is less with admissions standards and more with the fact that there’s nowhere to hide football players who don’t care about school. The article is clear- if they don’t believe a recruit can cut it in the classroom at ND, they don’t spend any time pursuing them.
In other words, this is more of a debate of semantics. The academic standards at ND are higher, even if admissions standards aren’t the obstacle, and they only pursue players who they think can keep up. The average SAT score in the article reflects that.
This article gives a really good overview of how ND approaches academics and sports.
It looks like the issue is less with admissions standards and more with the fact that there’s nowhere to hide football players who don’t care about school. The article is clear- if they don’t believe a recruit can cut it in the classroom at ND, they don’t spend any time pursuing them.
In other words, this is more of a debate of semantics. The academic standards at ND are higher, even if admissions standards aren’t the obstacle, and they only pursue players who they think can keep up. The average SAT score in the article reflects that.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:46 am to BGLAVI2
Are we allowed to discuss this? I thought we should talk about how non-white athletes dominate sports, but there are still too many white coaches, especially old ones.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 11:26 am to White Tiger
By white tiger , checks out
Tired of my identity being tied to my skin color, that’s just me
Tired of my identity being tied to my skin color, that’s just me
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:32 pm to Carlos the Tiger
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The higher academic requirements for entering scholarship athletes at places like Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Duke etc is a myth
At Tulane it isn’t
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:35 pm to cyarrr
quote:This is completely false
Stanford on the other hand doesn’t lower it’s requirements.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:37 pm to lsupride87
Every school has different requirements for athletes. Every single one. Even Ivy
For example, I had a 3.6 GPA and 28 ACT in high school and was accepted into Harvard and Columbia. And I was only a tennis player, so think how much they slide it for football players
Had buddies get into Stanford and Georgia tech with lower grades than me as well.
In saying that, they don’t take bottom of the barrell NCAA minimums like LSU though.
For example, I had a 3.6 GPA and 28 ACT in high school and was accepted into Harvard and Columbia. And I was only a tennis player, so think how much they slide it for football players
Had buddies get into Stanford and Georgia tech with lower grades than me as well.
In saying that, they don’t take bottom of the barrell NCAA minimums like LSU though.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:40 pm to Carlos the Tiger
quote:This isn’t true
But, the admission requirements for scholarship athletes are the minimum required for eligibility.
They aren’t taking 2.3 GPA and 990 SAT students en masse like power houses do
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:43 pm to BGLAVI2
ND can get the vast majority of players it wants. Not *every* player it wants, but the vast majority. The academic entry difficulty requirements are overblown.
Now, there are some guys who, even if they can get in, self-select away from ND to a place where there's less emphasis on academics. But the reverse is also true.
Now, there are some guys who, even if they can get in, self-select away from ND to a place where there's less emphasis on academics. But the reverse is also true.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:43 pm to chalmetteowl
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At Tulane it isn’t
Teammate of mine is assistant coach there and they slide their requirements for freaking tennis players. 
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:44 pm to lsupride87
quote:And didn't go there?
For example, I had a 3.6 GPA and 28 ACT in high school and was accepted into Harvard
Or did I just never know you did go there? lol
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:45 pm to shel311
quote:Bruh, 18 year old pride wanted titties, beer, football games, and more titles
Did you go to Harvard?
So I chose LSU If I could do it over again with a time machine knowing what I know now I think I would go to Naval Academy or Columbia actually
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 12/31/21 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
quote:18 year old are so dumb!
Bruh, 18 year old pride wanted titties, beer, football games, and more titles So I chose LSU
If I could do it over again with a time machine knowing what I know now I think I would go to Naval Academy or Columbia actually
I've always thought that anyone who is reasonably good at a sport and gets an Ivy league scholarship offer but has no reasonable chance to go pro at that sport should always always always take the Ivy league scholarship. That name on the resume for your degree makes a world of a difference.
But like you said, you ain't thinking about it that way when you're 18.
Posted on 12/31/21 at 7:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Then why do these schools keep kissing these kids butts to come to your Universities?? Many people try to tell these kids what SEC fans , like yourself, think of them. Or how lowly you think of them.
If you listen to ND (or even B10) players communicate, then compare to SEC players, you'll find out pretty quickly they have more intelligent players than Southern schools.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 7:35 pm
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