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Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:08 pm to tduecen
So, with everything on the line, after 3 full seasons including postseason, to perfect their methods, they couldn’t manage to win ONE goddamn home game to win it all this past season in the WS?
Just think about that for a minute.
Just think about that for a minute.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:14 pm to wahoocs
Sorry they were not perfect in their cheating?
You are looking for some way to prove they didn't cheat or that it didn't help, I'm not sure why other than for your own well being.
I'd wish MLB would release all the information they gathered from former players/coaches/employees but they won't. So the issue is technically dead, MLB has never taken a WS away from a team and I doubt I ever will so they have the banner. They will be seen with an blip against them for right now but 20-30 years from now no one will care.
You are looking for some way to prove they didn't cheat or that it didn't help, I'm not sure why other than for your own well being.
I'd wish MLB would release all the information they gathered from former players/coaches/employees but they won't. So the issue is technically dead, MLB has never taken a WS away from a team and I doubt I ever will so they have the banner. They will be seen with an blip against them for right now but 20-30 years from now no one will care.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:20 pm to tduecen
I’m not looking for anything
It’s a fact
You have to agree their system would need to take place at home
I was at all 4 home games that they lost.
If this system made the difference in championships, surely they could gain an advantage enough to win one game out of 4?
It’s a fact
You have to agree their system would need to take place at home
I was at all 4 home games that they lost.
If this system made the difference in championships, surely they could gain an advantage enough to win one game out of 4?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:22 pm to tduecen
MLB released that there is no evidence of wearing a device
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:22 pm to wahoocs
I never mentioned a device, you wanted to try to put that into my typing 
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:24 pm to wahoocs
quote:as it could have been used to help in certain situations, it is never 100% but alas you seem to believe what you want and unless MLB decides to release all the information we will never know the reach of the Astros cheating or when it occured vs didn't occur. However, they cheated and they've been punished now so it is essentially over.
I’m not looking for anything
It’s a fact
You have to agree their system would need to take place at home
I was at all 4 home games that they lost.
If this system made the difference in championships, surely they could gain an advantage enough to win one game out of 4?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 2:31 pm to tduecen
quote:
However, they cheated and they've been punished now so it is essentially over.
It will never be over. There will always be the “what if” arguments. As there should be. I flew my son out to LA for game 6 in 2017. We had an amazing experience that will always be remembered. That can’t be tarnished.
But the 2017 season will always be tarnished, in my opinion. I’ve been an astros fan since my first spring training game at the age of 5. I will always be a fan. After waiting 42 years for a WS win, it truly sucks arse to find out the players cheated.
Can’t wait for this season to start.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:40 pm to Floating Change Up
quote:
Source confirms that the Astros interviewed Oakland A’s quality control coach Mark Kotsay for their managerial opening. There are now nine candidates:
Kotsay
Buck Showalter
John Gibbons
Eduardo Pérez
Joe Espada
Dusty Baker
Jeff Banister
Will Venable
Brad Ausmus
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:41 pm to 5 Deep
What do we know about Kotsay? I like that he’s young and comes from the very analytical A’s
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:18 pm to 5 Deep
quote:
What do we know about Kotsay? I like that he’s young and comes from the very analytical A’s
He spent time in the Padres front office and then spent 1 season as their hitting coach before moving to the A's in 2016 as bench coach. He took a leave of absence from that role during the 2017 season after his daughter had a serious injury and he ultimately transitioned to the Quality Control job before the 2018 season. The Quality Control coach typically focuses on coaching fundamentals like defense but in many teams also acts as sort of a liaison of information and strategy between front office and bench staff.
I could see where his front office experience and relationships with the front office as a coach would have been valued by Luhnow but seeing as we don't currently have a GM, I'm not sure that matters. I genuinely can't see Crane hiring a first time manager to walk into the headache he'll have to deal with this year, which is why he's valuing guys like Dusty, Gibbons and Buck.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:59 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Nice little diversion from the topic of how badly the Astros suck at cheating:
quote:. —Bregman wheelbarrow
I get it now. Mike Fiers can’t give back his ring bc some 8th grade girl is walking around with it on her necklace
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:59 pm to Floating Change Up
Staying with that theme and the A’s, Kotsay sounds like a perfect fit.
The A’s have been banging drums to signal pitches for years
The A’s have been banging drums to signal pitches for years
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:26 pm to wahoocs
quote:
Astros' Alex Bregman gets engaged to Reagan Howard
All my rowdy friends have settled down
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:40 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:47 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Strained Oblique incoming.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:08 pm to Floating Change Up
To change the subject back to the coaching search, I did a little research on the candidates.
I thought looking at how each veteran manager has used the shift may give insight as to how forward-thinking they are as a manager.
I took their average MLB ranking in percentage of shifts in any years they coached between 2016 and 2019. As a side-note, the Astros led the league in shifts every year from 2016 to 2019.
Here are how the candidates fared:
Name, years, average ranking:
Showalter (16-18) 6th
Baker (16-17) 14th
Banister (16-18) 21st
Gibbons (16-18) 21st
Ausmus (16-17, 19) 24th
As surprising as it may be, 63 year old Buck Showalter was by far the most analytically-inclined manager of all of the established candidates by a pretty wide margin. His teams are up near the top with other analytical teams like the Rays, Yankees, and Twins.
If an established manager is the route they go, Buck Showalter may be a good mix between old-school and new-school.
I thought looking at how each veteran manager has used the shift may give insight as to how forward-thinking they are as a manager.
I took their average MLB ranking in percentage of shifts in any years they coached between 2016 and 2019. As a side-note, the Astros led the league in shifts every year from 2016 to 2019.
Here are how the candidates fared:
Name, years, average ranking:
Showalter (16-18) 6th
Baker (16-17) 14th
Banister (16-18) 21st
Gibbons (16-18) 21st
Ausmus (16-17, 19) 24th
As surprising as it may be, 63 year old Buck Showalter was by far the most analytically-inclined manager of all of the established candidates by a pretty wide margin. His teams are up near the top with other analytical teams like the Rays, Yankees, and Twins.
If an established manager is the route they go, Buck Showalter may be a good mix between old-school and new-school.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:50 pm to PrimeTime Money
And one point I’d like to make about Jim Crane. Jim Crane is smart. He’s a good owner. Think about who he hired.
He was the one that hired Jeff Lunhow as GM in 2011. It was a forward-thinking, smart hire. Lunhow had no experience as a GM. He came from the business world originally and was the Cardinals’ Vice President of Scouting and Player Development.
And look at AJ Hinch. Hinch was hired by the Astros in 2014. He was previously the manager of the Diamondbacks and had a career record at that time of 89-123. He was fired by the Diamondbacks half-way through his second season because his team was underperforming. His winning percentage of .420 is the lowest in Diamondbacks history to this day.
Yet Crane hired him. It didn’t matter that he didn’t succeed with Arizona.. Crane and his team saw something in him that led them to believe he’d be successful in Houston. Again, it was a smart hire.
He could have just hired an established GM and manager. But he didn’t. He went with guys who are really smart, even if they lacked experience. Crane gets it.
I’m confident he’ll make smart hires.
He was the one that hired Jeff Lunhow as GM in 2011. It was a forward-thinking, smart hire. Lunhow had no experience as a GM. He came from the business world originally and was the Cardinals’ Vice President of Scouting and Player Development.
And look at AJ Hinch. Hinch was hired by the Astros in 2014. He was previously the manager of the Diamondbacks and had a career record at that time of 89-123. He was fired by the Diamondbacks half-way through his second season because his team was underperforming. His winning percentage of .420 is the lowest in Diamondbacks history to this day.
Yet Crane hired him. It didn’t matter that he didn’t succeed with Arizona.. Crane and his team saw something in him that led them to believe he’d be successful in Houston. Again, it was a smart hire.
He could have just hired an established GM and manager. But he didn’t. He went with guys who are really smart, even if they lacked experience. Crane gets it.
I’m confident he’ll make smart hires.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:26 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:02 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
He could have just hired an established GM and manager. But he didn’t. He went with guys who are really smart, even if they lacked experience. Crane gets it.
Yes, his actions of running off Nolan Ryan and demoting Reid, just to put his son in charge speaks volumes of how much Crane “gets it”.
The Rangers shite all over Nolan and that organization has been a dumpster ever since. Hope the Astros don’t suffer from the Nolan curse. You gotta admit, things do not look promising.
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