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re: DAT All-Star Break and Draft chat

Posted on 7/15/24 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Uncle Mike23
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:40 pm to
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The Astros took Houston native and Bellaire High product Parker Smith in the forth round of the draft. Had a 4.23 ERA in 89.1 innings for Rice this season.




Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:53 pm to
We'll have an answer in 2 or 3 years. Maybe.
Posted by Uncle Mike23
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 6:44 pm to
Why have they not signed Trevor Bauer?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 6:49 pm to
shut up with this shite


frick bauer
Posted by Uncle Mike23
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:49 pm to
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Breakdown of the Astros' 19 picks:
Pitchers: 11
Outfielders: 4
Shortstops: 2
Catchers: 2
College sophomores: 1
College juniors: 10
College seniors: 4
Junior college: 2
High school: 2
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 12:30 pm to
There was mention of it the other day, but figured it’d be a good all star break discussion


At what point do we need to do a complete overhaul of our medical staff and/or their methods? I’m not blaming them for our players get hurt, because I don’t necessarily think they’re at fault for that.

I’m more concerned about the rehab process. It has become WAY too common for one of our players that are on the IL to have a setback and end up being out longer than anticipated

I will say part of that could be how terrible the organization is at disclosing what type of injuries our players suffer. Specifically using Tucker as an example…we have no clue the details of his injury. So him taking forever to return may not be on the medical staff.

However it does seem like a lot of our pitchers suffer some sort of setback while rehabbing and it’s getting really fricking old. We’ve been getting told for like 9 months that getting Lance and Garcia back around the deadline would be like adding 2 new arms. Of course nobody bought that shite about Lance but between Garcia having more problems and whatever the frick is going on with JV, it seems like it’s something that needs to be addressed
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:07 pm to
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I will say part of that could be how terrible the organization is at disclosing what type of injuries our players suffer.


I think this is the issue. What’s really strange though is they’ve been doing this throughout the different owner/gm/manager regimes. I’m not sure if it’s to avoid tipping their hand re possible trades? I know every guy’s recovery time varies, but I think they tend to be overly optimistic in most cases. I know Garcia is a young guy but I had serious doubts about his projected comeback when it is taking a lot of guys two years to make it back.

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We’ve been getting told for like 9 months that getting Lance and Garcia back around the deadline would be like adding 2 new arms.


Yep. And don’t forget the Brantley nonsense from last year as well. That one really pissed me off because I think we needed an OF bat, yet they kept insisting Uncle Mike was coming…which he did but not until late and in a very limited role. I fear this may be happening with JV too and they will hesitate going after an arm with the expectation that he will be back soon.
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:41 pm to
Thread hi-jack: Do we think Skenes will get a start when the Pirates come to town in 2 weeks?

I have circled the series on the calendar and want to go if he is on the bump.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 2:11 pm to
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Do we think Skenes will get a start when the Pirates come to town in 2 weeks?



Depends on where they line him up this weekend. Yesterday would have been his usual 5th day start. If they wanted to keep him on that 5 day schedule, he'd start on Sunday. If that happens he would pitch the Saturday before our Monday to Wednesday series and the Friday after it.

But if they start him Friday or Saturday, he would start in our series.
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 2:15 pm to
Would be awesome to see him in person but would also be great from the Astros perspective to miss him. Guess it’s a win/win
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 2:24 pm to
Just out of curiosity, and I know most including myself would not want to deal for either considering the price would be high, but would yall prefer Vladdy or Pete if we made a big trade for a 1B?


Eta this is really just a hypothetical cause I don’t see the Mets being sellers at this point unless they implode over the next 2 weeks
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Vladdy or Pete


Neither

I don't feel like this organization has any expendable pieces that are of any realistic value that would fetch those guys

Any piece that would, we need
Posted by Smokedawg
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 3:12 pm to
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I don't feel like this organization has any expendable pieces that are of any realistic value
People say this every year as of late but it seems to me our prospects succeed in the Majors at a higher level than every other team. Considering that none of our prospects are ever ranked in the top 100, especially the pitchers.
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 3:23 pm to
There’s depth in the OF prospects and some others have made strides. If they really wanted Vladdy or Alonso they could make it happen with prospects I think, especially Alonso. I’m of the opinion that’s not a good idea, but I think they could do it.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 3:29 pm to
It's simple really. If Crane wants Vlad, he will make it happen.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:02 pm to
It’s easy to see him pulling that card again for Vlad or Alonso
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:24 pm to
Yeah it’s a total Crane move

Which is why I asked the question

Disregarding everything about potential price and all of that, curious if there’s a consensus on who people think is better between Vladdy and Pete
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:25 pm to
Pete Alonso: 411PA .240/.319/.454/.772 21 doubles 19HR 51RBI 37 walks 85K

Singleton as 1B: 224PA .250/.348/.380/.728 4 doubles 7HR 28RBI 30 walks 63K


There's no doubt Alonso is more likely to deliver a big hit that can change a fame. One swing can make the difference in a post season series. He's more likely to do it than Big Jon.

I guess on an Alonso trade you're putting chips in that he can deliver one of those swings in the post season. But as far as the regular season goes, it's not a wild production gap between them when considering the price it would likely cost us to acquire him.
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 4:29 pm
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