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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:06 pm to
I listened to it and enjoyed the shite out of it.

It is on demand if you have Sirius/XM

Worth the listen
Posted by 5 Deep
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:17 pm to
Baseball America breakdown

2018 Houston Astros Top 10 Prospects
1. Forrest Whitley, RHP
2. Kyle Tucker, OF
3. Yordan Alvarez, 1B/OF
4. J.B. Bukauskas, RHP
5. Freudis Nova, SS/3B
6. Jairo Solis, RHP
7. Hector Perez, RHP
8. Jorge Alcala, RHP
9. David Paulino, RHP
10. J.D. Davis, 3B

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For each organization, we identify the 10 prospects with the highest ceilings, with consideration given to the likelihood of reaching those ceilings. To qualify as a prospect, a position player cannot exceed 130 big league at-bats, while a pitcher cannot exceed 50 innings or 30 relief appearances. These thresholds mirror major league rookie qualifications, albeit without regard for major league service time.

Notable Graduations: 1B Yuli Gurriel (8) and OF Derek Fisher (9)



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SYSTEM OVERVIEW

Strengths: Even after graduating righthanders Francis Martes and (the now-traded) Joe Musgrove and trading away righty Franklin Perez, the Astros still have a number of high-ceiling pitching prospects, led by the precocious Forrest Whitley--a potential front-of-the-rotation starter. Houston has plenty of versatility as well. Righties J.B. Bukauskas, Hector Perez, Jorge Alcala and David Paulino, who all rank inside the top 10, all could be starters or relievers.

Weaknesses: The Astros came into 2017 with a healthy surplus of outfielders throughout the upper levels of the system. After trading away Teoscar Hernandez, Daz Cameron, Preston Tucker, Jason Martin, and Ramon Laureano and graduating Derek Fisher, Houston has Kyle Tucker--but not nearly as many solid bats with defensive versatility at the upper levels.

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BEST TOOLS
Best Pure Hitter: Kyle Tucker
Best Power Hitter: Yordan Alvarez
Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Myles Straw Fastest Baserunner: Myles Straw
Best Athlete: Yordan Alvarez
Best Fastball: Jorge Alcala
Best Curveball: Framber Valdez
Best Slider: Forrest Whitley
Best Changeup: Forrest Whitley
Best Control: Rogelio Armenteros
Best Defensive Catcher: Garrett Stubbs
Best Defensive INF: Freudis Nova
Best INF Arm: J.D. Davis
Best Defensive OF: Gilberto Celestino
Best OF Arm: Myles Straw
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:18 pm to
We just keep unearthing and developing high ceiling Latin kids. That’s why I’m not concerned about possibly trading prospects, or this “window”. I think Nova is going to be s really big name by the end of this year
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:30 pm to
I have a feeling now that Tucker and Whitley are becoming too mainstream, Myles Straw will be very much in the thick of things for future DAT crownings
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:31 pm to
He’s a really interesting player. I dunno if he’s gonna be good but the profile he has is very unique

He picks up the slightest amount of power without sacrificing much contact and they might really have something
This post was edited on 1/20/18 at 9:34 pm
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:34 pm to
Strike zone disciple, very good speed, and great defense will always find you a place on a roster even if it’s as a backup. Especially in the postseason


If we could get us a catcher of the future that sure would be nice. Anybody have a clue how Jacob Nottingham has progressed?
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:51 pm to
Also is the AJ Reed hype train officially dead?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94503 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Also is the AJ Reed hype train officially dead?


Deader than a door nail. Yuli is keeping first base warm for a year or two more until Alvarez arrives. And then when he fails like every other top 1B prospect we have, we hype the next guy in the minors.
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
11139 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:29 am to
Nottingham was the Brewers 14th rated prospect last season.

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14) Jacob Nottingham, C-1B, Grade C+: Age 21, hit .234/.295/.347 with 11 homers, 29 walks, 138 strikeouts in 415 at-bats in Double-A; I thought he was one of the top catching prospects in baseball a year ago but ’16 was quite poor; strike zone got away from him, Southern League pitchers exploiting his tendency to chase; has the physical tools to catch but remains raw, gave up 21 passed balls and made 15 errors, both rates much too high; too young and physically talented to write off but obviously has a lot of work to do. ETA 2019.


2017 he hit just above the Mendoza line at AA.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 12:30 am
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:59 am to
We have ordered the jewels for the Rogelio Armenteros crown. It will be a shiny one.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
21543 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:14 pm to
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The Astros have claimed left-handed pitcher Buddy Boshers off of waivers from the Minnesota Twins.






Luhnow’s next diamond in the rough?
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9545 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:17 pm to
Bargain shopping again, sad. We’ll never win with acquisitions like this.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:25 pm to
Any of you guys think we sign another C for depth, or do you think we roll with McCann, Gattis, and Stassi next year? With Gattis likely being DH, I'm not sure if they're content with McCann/Stassi for 162 games, or do they sign another to back them up.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:36 pm to
I saw in an article or chat the other day someone asking who some pillow contract candidates would be with how slow the market is, and Lucroy was mentioned as a possibility. I would love to get Lucroy on a one year deal where he can split catching duties with McCann.

Beyond him I dunno, but I would rather have a veteran catcher on a relatively cheap deal than roll with Stassi. Wellington Castillo, Nick Hundley or Rene Rivera are guys that could fill that possibly. Looking at it though it appears all those guys have signed so nvm
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Beyond him I dunno, but I would rather have a veteran catcher on a relatively cheap deal than roll with Stassi.


I think I agree. I'm fine if they sign Luccroy to like a one year deal too. I think he did pretty well after he was traded to the Rockies last year.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:43 pm to
I think the worry with him from a lot of teams is that it was in Colorado. I’m sure a one year deal with him would be expensive for that year but it would be a nice upgrade over Stassi for that season. And with how cheap the core of the team is it’s the type of thing they could consider.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94503 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:53 pm to
OT news. Georgie got married over the weekend and quite the contingent of Stros bros showed up.



AJ, Gregs, Trill Harris, Jake, Fiers, Jabroni, Peacock, Sipp and I think that's Windmill behind Fiers
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:59 pm to
Thoughts...

Bosher: He's a potential LOOGY with an option remaining. Worst case, somebody needs to throw left-handed out of the Fresno pen.

Lucroy: Declining on offense and defense in a contract year was a bold strategy, Cotton.

Wedding pic: Fiers probably thinks the movie Wedding Crashers is a documentary.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94503 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Bosher: He's a potential LOOGY with an option remaining. Worst case, somebody needs to throw left-handed out of the Fresno pen.


Ashur Tolliver and Jordan Jankowski get World Series rings.

At the very least, there's bumps in the season where AAA filler needs to make an appearance. That may be Boshers.
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