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Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:11 pm to
Tucker was going to be the 5th of guy anyways. JL already said as much in a round about way.
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:55 am to
Correa makes Bregman look like a dwarf
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:17 am to
U WOT M8?
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:46 am to
Ken Rosenthal on Twitter
quote:

Sources: #Astros spoke to #Brewers about Lucroy a month ago; no match. HOU facing possible hole at catcher; Castro entering free-agent year.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:49 am to


Ho Lee Fuk. Singleton is huge. Drellich said he's gained 15-17 pounds up to 250.
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Sources: #Astros spoke to #Brewers about Lucroy a month ago; no match. HOU facing possible hole at catcher; Castro entering free-agent year.


I think like 8 or 9 of our projected 25 man roster is entering the final year of their contract.

Off the top of my head (someone correct me or add if I miss one):
Valbuena
Rasmus
Gattis (club option)
Gomez
Castro
Feldman
Fister
Neshek
Will Harris (Arb eligible)

Thats like $60-plus million projected to come off the books but also half our MLB team,


Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:55 am to
#GAinz
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:56 am to
It would be tough making a deal with Milwaukee now I think. Stearns knows our system in and out
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:06 pm to
How pathetic are these grown men standing in line for autographs. I would refuse to sign anything if I was a player unless. It was for a kid. I would also put a personalized message on everything I sign.
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:35 pm to
It's prett sad. Those "fans" comes with bags full of shite they're trying to get signed
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Singleton is huge. Drellich said he's gained 15-17 pounds up to 250.


He is happy with that $10 million. I'm sure AJ Reed was happy to see biggggggg Jon in camp.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

I think like 8 or 9 of our projected 25 man roster is entering the final year of their contract.

Off the top of my head (someone correct me or add if I miss one):
Valbuena
Rasmus
Gattis (club option)
Gomez
Castro
Feldman
Fister
Neshek
Will Harris (Arb eligible)

Thats like $60-plus million projected to come off the books but also half our MLB team,


Most of the guys who expire after the season are not a big concern.

Valbuena (Bregman and Moran are coming)
Rasmus (may be willing to sign year-to-year to stay)
Gattis (club option means he isn't going anywhere unless we want him gone)
Gomez (1st round pick-to-be)
Castro (Bye Felicia)
Feldman (5th starter at best)
Fister (see Feldman)
Neshek (see Castro)
Will Harris (Arb eligible)
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:17 pm to
I could see us resigning Castro. We don't have a catcher in the pipeline really unless Stassi shows something this year. I think next year's free agency crop is actually decent though

Gattis won't necessarily be a free agent if we decline his option either. I'm pretty sure he just goes back to being arb eligible. When they signed the deal I remember seeing it wouldn't impact his free agency timeline and he still has a few years to go before he reaches the service time. I guess we could decline the option then not offer arbitration if he really sucks it up

Out of that group I see Gattis Rasmus and Castro (in that order) probably having the best chance of being brought back, and Harris should def be back as long as he doesn't blow up. Maybe an outside shot for one of Feldman or Fister. I don't see any shot for Gomez, Neshek or Valbuena
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Gomez


Will probably be a trade candidate at the deadline.

Let's hope Marisnick gets his shite together to make Gomez less of a necessity.

Anyone watch that video of Gustave pitching his pen session? Dude has some good movement on his fastball.

And Giles... ho. lee. shite. dude was throwing his first session and was absolutely blowing up Castro's mitt.

Meanwhile...the "real closer" Gregerson is still a few days away from being able to throw.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Will probably be a trade candidate at the deadline.


We aren't dealing him at the deadline if we're winning. Marisnick would have to take a massive leap as a player to equal what Gomez is capable of if he's healthy. Gomez was a 5-7 win player at his peak a couple years ago. Even last year Gomez far outproduced Marisnick and he was hurt for most of the year

Gomez is an important piece to our success this year, but we will most likely be collecting a comp pick for him next season offseason while he signs a deal elsewhere with the young OFs we have in the system

And yeah I think Gustave is a future back end bullpen arm. He looks nasty. Giles plus him plus maybe Feliz if he ends up there would be dirty. And Riley Ferrell as well
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 3:25 pm to
The excitement is palpable.
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:24 pm to
I'm the first one on the gomez pain train. Join now.
Posted by List Eater
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:49 pm to
Tags retweeted a familiar pic today.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:30 pm to
Based on Barry's question in the Reds/Jays trade thread

quote:

Who did the Astros acquire in trades that was so good?


I did too much digging into the trades we made once the rebuild began (2010-2014). When we auctioned off our best major league pieces for prospects. What a total crapshoot. Some of the trades we made got us major league players like Happ and Lowrie but the point of trades is building for the future so I looked at the ones who hadn't yet made the majors.

2010
Lance Berkman traded to Yankees for Mark Melancon & Jimmy Paredes

Roy Oswalt traded to Phillies for JA Happ, Jonathon Villar & Brett Wallace

2011
Hunter Pence traded to Phillies for Jared Cosart, Jon Singleton, Josh Zied & Domingo Santana

Michael Bourn traded to Braves for Brett Oberholtzer, Jordan Schafer, Juan Abreu & Paul Clemens

2012
Mark Melancon traded to Red Sox for Jed Lowrie & Kyle Weiland

Brandon Lyon, David Carpenter & JA Happ traded to Toronto for Asher Wojciechowski, Ben Francisco, Carlos Perez,
David Rollins, Franciso Cordero & Joe Musgrove

Brett Myers traded to White Sox for Chris Devenski, Blair Walters & Matt Heidenreich

Wandy Rodriguez traded to Pirates for Colton Cain, Robbie Grossman & Rudy Owens

2013
Wilton Lopez Traded to Rockies for Alex White & Alex Gillingham

Jed Lowrie & Fernando Rodriguez traded to Oakland for Brad Peacock, Chris Carter & Max Stassi

Jose Veras traded to Detroit for Danry Vasquez

Bud Norris traded to Orioles for LJ Hoes, Josh Hader & Competitive Balance Pick (Derek Fisher)
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99935 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:36 pm to
Wallace 311 games .242 average 29HR 102RBI released in 2014
Grossman 190 games .240 averages 11HR 63RBI released in 2015
Villar 198 games .236 average traded to Brewers for Cy Sneed in 2015
Paredes 118 games .234 average claimed off waivers
Singleton 114 games .171 average battling for 2016 1B position
Hoes 109 games .240 average .292 OBP traded to BAL for cash in 2015
Santana 20 games .179 average traded to Brewers in 2015
Stassi 21 games .357 average 2016 backup catcher

Oberholtzer 45 games 253.2IP 11-20 record 3.94ERA, traded to Phillies in 2015
Cosart 30 starts 176.1IP 3.57 ERA one of 3 players traded to MIA in 2014
Clemens 48 games 98IP 4-8 record 5.51ERA DFA'd and released in 2014
Zied 48 games 48.1IP 5.21 ERA claimed off Waivers
Wojiechowski 3 starts 16.1IP 7.16ERA demoted to AAA in 2015 after starting season in rotation
Abreu 7 games 6.2IP released from AAA in 2012
Owens 5.2 IP 7.94ERA released in 2014


Musgrove Astros #6 prospect
Fisher Astros #9 prospect
Vasquez currently at AA Corpus Christi
Devenski pitched at AA Corpus in 2015

Perez traded to LAA for Hank Conger
Hader traded to Brewers in 2015
Rollins selected by Mariners in 2015 Rule 5 draft
Walters released in 2013

Heindreich released from AA in 2014
Cain released from AA in 2015
Gillingham released in 2012


Cosart of course was sent with Kike and Austin Wates to Miami for Marisnick, Moran and Martes and the pick that turned into Daz. All those appear to have a future role in the organization.

Santana and Hader went to Milwaukee for Fiers and Gomez

Singleton, Stassi, Musgrove, Fisher, Vasquez & Devenski are still with the organization.

11 of the players were either released or claimed off waivers and the Astros got nothing.

Interesting that most of the minor leaguers we acquired did make it to the majors. Just none of them were very good.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 9:40 pm
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