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re: Dabo Swinney doesn't think Ohio State should make the playoff

Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:10 pm to
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I don't think they belong in the playoffs
yikes. sorry Jay
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:13 pm to
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OSU has one win over a currently ranked team but will have more ranked wins if they win the B1G.


It's a hell of a lot easier to have multiple ranked wins when your opponents have only played 6 games instead of 10.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:14 pm to
and at assuming all ranked teams are equal
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:15 pm to
While I don't think a team that loses by four touchdowns belongs in I hope you get in and we play you. I do think if you get it and we do as well it's more likely that the committee will jump A&M to 3 to avoid the Alabama rematch in the semis.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148054 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:15 pm to
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While I don't think a team that loses by four touchdowns belongs in
good luck against bama
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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and at assuming all ranked teams are equal


Let's look at your wins then.

Vanderbilt 0-8
Florida 8-1 great win
Mississippi State 2-6
Arkansas 3-6
South Carolina 2-8
LSU 3-5
Auburn 5-4 decent win

Let's not pretend you've played murderers row this season outside of the asskicking against Alabama and Florida who was certainly a high quality opponent.

Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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good luck against bama


I hear you on that. If we play them I'll be missing last years defensive backs for sure.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:22 pm to
But if role was reversed he would say how he deserves to be in, he is an arse.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30708 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Let's not pretend you've played murderers row this season outside of the asskicking against Alabama and Florida who was certainly a high quality opponent.


Wins over Auburn and Florida >>>>>>>>>>>> wins over Northwestern and Indiana.

It's not fair towards OSU by any means but you have to take that into consideration.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148054 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Let's not pretend you've played murderers row this season
and lets not pretend that we havent played a more difficult schedule than yall. we played two legitimate playoff contenders and beat one. that has to count for something. we then beat an auburn team who would have been your 2nd best win this year. im not saying we should be in over a 6-0 ohio state. i may feel that way but i get that isnt going to happen so i have no real interest in arguing that. my point was simply that poster acting like we had a rather equal regular season is ridiculous
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51631 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:30 pm to
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They should have expanded it this year alone knowing we would have issues like this. But the NCAA is incompetent



the CFP has nothing to do with the NCAA...
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148054 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:33 pm to
fair enough. the member schools should have had the foresight to make a change but they were too worried about either grandstanding or myopically only caring about their own houses with the pandemic and protests
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:35 pm to
Nah. I agree with you on the season. Just pointing out that other than a few teams the SEC is as much of a shite conference this year as every other conference.

And you are right about the two playoff contenders. I like to think that you and I are both reasonable posters that can have a good conversation.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31237 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:36 pm to
I dont think they should either, but if it pisses Dabo off, I'm all for it.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51631 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:39 pm to
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other than a few teams the SEC is as much of a shite conference this year as every other conference.

basically the only nonconference we've had this year was the Sun Belt beating the Big XII. How do we know any conference is good?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:41 pm to
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How do we know any conference is good?


Honestly, we don't. It's just a lot of they must be good because of the past. Sort of like the Auburn to Indiana comparison. Indiana "appears" to be be a greatly improved program but without the other data we really don't know if Auburn is on their level or not. I do think that the Indiana defense would drive Auburn's Neanderthal offense nuts.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148054 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:41 pm to
the SEC is a mess at the bottom this year and that has led to a really unbalanced conference. vandy, tennessee, USCjr, LSU, and MSU are all total disasters and arkansas got really fricked by covid

we really dont have a middle like most years
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:48 pm to
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I mean they obviously do since the committee has them at #4 right now.



I meant logically. If your point is that committee decision justifies the committee’s decision, then congrats.

Ohio State doesn’t have a case.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2353 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:04 pm to
There is no middle in any conference because of the schedules.

A 4-4 sec team is normally 8-4, ranked, and propping up the strength of record for the top teams. That team is 4-6 and sucks this season.

Even LSUs dumpster fire year would have a good shot at 7-5 and looking plain down, rather than disaster, in a normal year.

That the committee is so short sighted that they’re gonna force convention onto this top 4 instead of tossing a Cincy or Coastal in there so we can have a little fun is a damn shame.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3659 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:09 pm to
At 6-0 will OSU even have any season fatigue or injuries?
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