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D1 4-year Transition Rule - Conference Tournaments

Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:38 pm
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13225 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:38 pm
How has this dumb rule not gone away yet? Because St. Thomas is in transition mode from D2 to D1, they are ineligible for the NCAA Tournament. They are now playing in the Summitt League Championship game tomorrow which means Omaha, who they will play, now gets the automatic bid regardless of the result tomorrow night

This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 11:39 pm
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4590 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:04 am to
One of the dumbest rules in college sports and there’s a lot of them. I can understand going D1 to D2 but there’s no advantage going D2 to D1. This has happened a few time the last few years and it’s BS. They need to change this rule.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 12:24 am
Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
1949 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:27 am to
quote:

Because St. Thomas is in transition mode from D2 to D1

The Tommies are in the unprecedented transition from D3 directly to D1. Their goal is apparently to get an invite to the Big East in the future, and they are off to a great start.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81912 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:43 am to
Agreed it sucks for them and on a side it's crazy they were D3 about 5 years ago and went straight to D1.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 7:45 am
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
1356 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Their goal is apparently to get an invite to the Big East in the future, and they are off to a great start.

I guess Minnesota does fit in the geographic footprint of the new Big East. Not that geography matters anymore for conferences anyway.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:24 am to
If they aren't eligible for the NCAA tournament, don't let them play in the conference tournament. If they're good enough to win the conference tournament, let them into the Big Dance.
This shite isn't that hard.
Posted by L5ut1g3r
Member since Mar 2019
1467 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:27 am to
Hate this rule, they should allow these teams to compete to make the tournament!
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3647 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:30 am to
quote:


One of the dumbest rules in college sports and there’s a lot of them. I can understand going D1 to D2 but there’s no advantage going D2 to D1. This has happened a few time the last few years and it’s BS. They need to change this rule.


The eligibility requirements for D1 and D2 are different. All D1 athletes would be eligible for D2 but not the reverse isn't true.

The rule is to keep teams from winning with players who wouldn't be eligible to play if they weren't on a transitional team.

The eligibility differences aren't just academic. There are differences in age limits and playing timelines. For instance, in D2 football, a player has 10 semesters to play five seasons.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80052 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

The eligibility requirements for D1 and D2 are different. All D1 athletes would be eligible for D2 but not the reverse isn't true.

The rule is to keep teams from winning with players who wouldn't be eligible to play if they weren't on a transitional team.

The eligibility differences aren't just academic. There are differences in age limits and playing timelines. For instance, in D2 football, a player has 10 semesters to play five seasons.



None of this justifies the rule.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53786 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

None of this justifies the rule.


I mean if they didn’t like it they could have just stayed D2
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26260 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:03 pm to
They call it the Randy Moss rule

Back when you could transfer to I-AA without sitting out a year, Marshall loaded up on a lot of I-A transfers and then moved up to I-A and dominated. The rule was to prevent gaming the system like that
Posted by DraggingPride
Member since Jul 2024
117 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:11 pm to
But since that’s not the case anymore why don’t they adapt?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80052 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:12 pm to
That doesn't justify the rule either.

The NCAA can't get out of their own way. They are a relic and will be extinct in the near future.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175885 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Back when you could transfer to I-AA without sitting out a year, Marshall loaded up on a lot of I-A transfers and then moved up to I-A and dominated. The rule was to prevent gaming the system like that

And now that’s how the entire system operates by loading up on transfers. The NCAA is so retarded.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6378 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:26 pm to
The rules exist to stop the manipulation. Timing your moving up when you know you have a good team so that you can cash in quickly.

FCS and Division 2 had much more lax eligibility standards, so the phase in rules would stop a team from recruiting a bunch of ringers and then moving up and cashing in; they can still recruit ringers and move up, but they can't cash in.
The rules may be obsolete at this point; I'm not sure there are any eligibility standards anymore.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:15 pm to
ncaa is gayer than west coast pole smoker?
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