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re: Court document: NFL admits blown call in NFC title game, says it wants lawsuit thrown out
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:30 am to dgnx6
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:30 am to dgnx6
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Or get fired.
I think that will likely happen in this situation.
But litigation over something like this will NEVER go all the way through. It opens up such a ridiculous precedent where every team would be suing the league over every call they disagree with. There is already a system in place for when a team has an issue with a call(s), and that leads to changes in how the game is officiated and the rules that govern it...ie, the talk about making pass interference a challengeable play.
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:31 am to Dr RC
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love that the cry baby sports fans of Louisiana will never let this shite go. It helps remind everyone they are the worst losers in all of sports.
EVERY fricking time a team from Louisiana loses its MUH REFS MUH REFS. Boo fricking hoo. Keep making yourselves look like fools.
Lol, Bama fans petitioned to have the kick 6 game replayed.
We aren't the only ones that complain about the refs. Pretty much everyone around the country was shittimg on that game.
I can turn on a Los Angeles radio station and hear them say the Rams didn't deserve it.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:37 am to Chucktown_Badger
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I think that will likely happen in this situation.
But litigation over something like this will NEVER go all the way through. It opens up such a ridiculous precedent where every team would be suing the league over every call they disagree with. There is already a system in place for when a team has an issue with a call(s), and that leads to changes in how the game is officiated and the rules that govern it...ie, the talk about making pass interference a challengeable play.
I agree totally on why litigation won't work.
I doubt firing will happen. Why? First, how many guys on the crew do you fire? They all could throw a flag.
Next, I doubt the NFL wants to fire an official on a single blown call, no matter how bad it was. There's a human element where refs screw up. The NFL has to deal with all their refs, and I could see the refs union getting pissed if an otherwise good ref gets fired over one bad judgment call.
Frankly, even internal discipline pales in comparison to the public flogging this crew has gotten.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:42 am to Rep520
Anyone in this thread at all familiar with the jets fan that sued the NFL when they announced Spy Gate?
You can't sue the NFL for things like this. It is ENTERTAINMENT. If they fix a game, as a fan, you were ENTERTAINED. There is nothing you can do about it.
If you don't want pay for fixed games, quit going to them and watch them on TV. The NFL, like every other professional entity, can do what it pleases with its product.
You can't sue the NFL for things like this. It is ENTERTAINMENT. If they fix a game, as a fan, you were ENTERTAINED. There is nothing you can do about it.
If you don't want pay for fixed games, quit going to them and watch them on TV. The NFL, like every other professional entity, can do what it pleases with its product.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:51 am to TechDawg2007
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You're on a Louisiana based message board. What the hell did you think would happen?
No shite. He needs to get off of the LSU message board if he does not like it.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:58 am to TechDawg2007
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"Because the officials on the field are humans, like the players and coaches, errors will happen," the league's lawyers wrote
So they shouldn't be held accountable? Seems like that's opening a can of worms. The NFL is such a shite show it's absurd.
If the players and coaches are going to be subjected to questions by the media after games and other times then the zebras should have to do the same IMO.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:00 pm to TechDawg2007
It was not a “blown call” it was a willful decision to ignore the rules and fix the game, this is what needs to be argued.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:03 pm to Burglekutt
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the players and coaches are going to be subjected to questions by the media after games and other times then the zebras should have to do the same IMO.
There is a thread last week that covered this very statement.
There is a reason that leagues do not allow officials to answer to anything.
I can sum it up in two words: Quack Quack
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:07 pm to TechDawg2007
I submit exhibit T(ears)
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:08 pm to retooc
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I submit exhibit T(ears)
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:11 pm to TH03
If i would have cried for 2 weeks after, that the game was stolen.
Instead I blamed poor coaching decisions like a normal fan.
Instead I blamed poor coaching decisions like a normal fan.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:13 pm to Strannix
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It was not a “blown call” it was a willful decision to ignore the rules and fix the game, this is what needs to be argued.
Like the "willful decision to ignore the rules and fix" the 2002 NFC Wild Card Game between the Giants-49ers and the no call obvious PI on the game's final play that infamous failed field goal attempt? no lawsuits happened due to that and, if any were filed, they were more than likely 12b6d because THERE IS NO CAUSE OF ACTION THAT WOULD EVER ASCEND UP THE SYSTEM RELATING TO THINGS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY OCCURRED IN PRO FOOTBALL EXHIBITIONS, IT'S A HUMAN-ADMINISTERED GAME NATURALLY MISTAKES LIKE THIS HAPPEN, EVEN OBVIOUS ONES.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:21 pm to arcalades
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Let me help you out; there's no such thing as bad publicity
That’s not true for a brand. At all.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:43 pm to TechDawg2007
I'm exhausted with this. We were robbed, 100%. But the constant arguing with fans of other teams, who damn well know they'd react the same if this happened to them, is tiresome.
I'll simply do my part and illegally stream all Saints games moving forward, and not buy any NFL merchandise.
That's quite literally the only thing we can do. It's over. frick the NFL.
I'll simply do my part and illegally stream all Saints games moving forward, and not buy any NFL merchandise.
That's quite literally the only thing we can do. It's over. frick the NFL.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:51 pm to cas4t
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I'm exhausted with this. We were robbed, 100%. But the constant arguing with fans of other teams, who damn well know they'd react the same if this happened to them, is tiresome.
Yeah, all this.
It's been an eye-opening experience for me. Good posters indulging this travesty just to troll, smart guys arguing the dumbest shite I've ever seen (Score more points if you don't wanna get bent over by the officials!), NFL shills going the extra mile to normalize this egregious bullshite.
Then there's the "get over it" assholes - yeah, nobody called into work or stopped eating. Life goes on, but from a sports fan perspective, very few people have been fricked like this. Pardon us for having something to say about t.
Oh well. It's helped to see logical sports fans share their takes. I'm thinking about riding down to NOLA Sunday night and joining one of these anti-super bowl parties. Could be a fun time.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:53 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Then there's the "get over it" assholes - yeah, nobody called into work or stopped eating. Life goes on, but from a sports fan perspective, very few people have been fricked like this. Pardon us for having something to say about t.
Yeah the idiots posting on a Louisiana sports website complaining about people discussing Louisiana sports are insufferable.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:00 pm to retooc
I'm gonna post this one more time. Then I'm done.
Coaching decisions, bad throws, turnovers, missed blocks, overrun plays, bad angles, etc...are all designed to affect the outcome of a game. Those things are meant to affect the outcome. Cause and effect.
Refereeing is not meant to affect the outcome of the game. The folks saying things like "missed calls are part of the game" are simply wrong. They are there for the opposite reason, to ensure breaking the rules does NOT affect the outcome of the game. Refereeing should go unnoticed, for the most part. Like a good boss, who leaves you alone when not needed but is there to make sure everything is being done correctly.
So, this brings us to looking at coaching and player mistakes in the same vacuum as refereeing mistakes. It is a bit of a strawman logical fallacy to dumb down a blatant mistake by a referee to "well, play and coach better and you don't have to worry about it".
Yes, the Saints could have played better. That certainly affected the outcome, as it does in every game, in all sports, in the history of competition.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with a late missed call that changed the outcome of a game. They are separate issues.
Coaching decisions, bad throws, turnovers, missed blocks, overrun plays, bad angles, etc...are all designed to affect the outcome of a game. Those things are meant to affect the outcome. Cause and effect.
Refereeing is not meant to affect the outcome of the game. The folks saying things like "missed calls are part of the game" are simply wrong. They are there for the opposite reason, to ensure breaking the rules does NOT affect the outcome of the game. Refereeing should go unnoticed, for the most part. Like a good boss, who leaves you alone when not needed but is there to make sure everything is being done correctly.
So, this brings us to looking at coaching and player mistakes in the same vacuum as refereeing mistakes. It is a bit of a strawman logical fallacy to dumb down a blatant mistake by a referee to "well, play and coach better and you don't have to worry about it".
Yes, the Saints could have played better. That certainly affected the outcome, as it does in every game, in all sports, in the history of competition.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with a late missed call that changed the outcome of a game. They are separate issues.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:04 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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It's been an eye-opening experience for me. Good posters indulging this travesty just to troll, smart guys arguing the dumbest shite I've ever seen (Score more points if you don't wanna get bent over by the officials!), NFL shills going the extra mile to normalize this egregious bullshite.
As I mentioned above, this is a bit of a strawman argument anyways. Not to mention these folks are giving in to the fact that the NFL has ignored other options to ensure these calls can and should be made.
I'd bet my 401k we get a rule change in the next season or 2.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:08 pm to cas4t
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Yes, the Saints could have played better. That certainly affected the outcome, as it does in every game, in all sports, in the history of competition. But that has absolutely nothing to do with a late missed call that changed the outcome of a game. They are separate issues.
Let us not forget that the Saints unilaterally playing better, per the exhortations, does not happen. There is a team on the other side of the ball with great players and great coaches teaching them, that are playing just as hard to ensure that Saints do NOT play better.
Officials do not have another team trying to keep them from being good and accurate.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:12 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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You're on a Louisiana based message board. What the hell did you think would happen?
Whining. Mostly.
yet here you are, posting away. This aint the SEC rant. This here is tigerdroppings, friend. Most of us are LSU and Saints fans. Don't like the complaining about Louisiana sports, feel free to discuss "more sports" on the SEC rant off topic board with your ilk.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 1:14 pm
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