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re: Could the AFC South be the best division in Football?

Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Even with Rodgers back, the Vikings are the team to beat in the North, just like the Saints are in the South





The team that has had one winning record in the past 4 years is the team to beat?
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:47 pm to
and you must realize.. The Packers pick next year depends on the Saints record. So its in my best interest to truly believe the Saints will have a down year
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:49 pm to
I never understand why people bring up teams more than maybe 1 year back as if they're indicative of the next year. Too much changes year to year to say that 7-9 3 years ago has anything to do with 2018.

On paper, saints and falcons are the 2 best in the NFC south. Anyone saying either of these teams is the "team to beat" in the division wouldn't be wrong.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:54 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I never understand why people bring up teams more than maybe 1 year back as if they're indicative of the next year.


Because most people on this board are dumb and cant think for themselves
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:40 pm to
I think having consistently bad seasons back to back to back with one good season sprinkled in is definitely a good reason to look past just one season. Yes, a lot can change from on season to the next. But I think you can discredit a consistent pattern like that. I think the Saints are better than 7-9, but I think it’s laughable that poster called the Saints the team to beat. Hell, the most consistent thing in all of the NFL is that no one ever knows who the team to beat in the NFC South is. It changes every year.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25132 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:44 pm to
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think the offense being good doesn't depend on Watson at all but Bill O'Brien's offense and if he can change it to fit Watson.


That already happened when Watson was playing QB last year. It went back to the same ol after he got hurt

ETA: Everyone was better with Watson playing, offensive line didn’t matter as much. Lamar Miller had room to run, Will Fuller put up gaudy numbers, etc
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:48 pm to
Mariota is about to shite on the AFC South.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:54 pm to
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That already happened when Watson was playing QB last year. It went back to the same ol after he got hurt

ETA: Everyone was better with Watson playing, offensive line didn’t matter as much. Lamar Miller had room to run, Will Fuller put up gaudy numbers, etc



Let's pump the breaks real quick. This has happened with about every single scrambling qb that starts their rookie season. Then they come back to reality real quick after that season. I think he won't have as hard of a sophomore slump as Dak, but won't be as dynamic as he was last year.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:15 pm to
Member when the Eagles had back to back 7-9 seasons before winning the Super Bowl? I member.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:19 pm to
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Member when the Eagles had back to back 7-9 seasons before winning the Super Bowl? I member.




Saint's on their second year with a new coach and new qb (most important position in football)? Not all situations are created equal.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25132 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Let's pump the breaks real quick. This has happened with about every single scrambling qb that starts their rookie season


They had the best offense in football for the 7 weeks he played, I don’t think you can say that about all the other QBs. And it was becuase of him, not the running game.

Not to mention he had the most TD passes in first 7 games of a career for anyone, ever

ETA: I guess what I’m trying to say is, he probably will have some troubles, but to act like he’s every other running QB before him is a little silly. He had by far a better college career than any of them, and he played exceedingly well (albeit in a limited timeframe) in an offense designed for him
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 4:47 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:48 pm to
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but to act like he’s every other running QB before him is a little silly.



IN COLLEGE.... Vick>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Watson.... And I LOVE the guy as the Texans QB... If he can stay healthy the is no limit to where they can go..............
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
5842 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:52 pm to
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Saints, Falcons, and Panthers are better than FOUR of the four teams in the AFC South.


FIFY
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
5842 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:54 pm to
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NFC north has this title.
Packers > Saints
Vikings > Falcons
Lions > Panthers
Bears< Bucs


Saints
Vikings
Falcons
Panthers
Packers
Lions
Bears
Bucs

To be honest though, Saints, Vikings, and Falcons can be swapped around any way depending on the Sunday they play.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25132 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:55 pm to
Vick:

22 games, 56% passer, 3299 yds, 21 TDs, 11 INT, 150.6 Rating

235 carries, 1299, 5.5 per rush, 17 TDS

Watson:

38 Games, 67% passer, 10167 yards, 90 TDS, 32 Picks, 157.5 Rating

435 carries, 1934, 4.4 per rush, 26 TDs

Watson was one of the most accomplished college QBs ever, and played in the Natty 2 years in a row, and beat a great Bama team

Vick was a better rusher, but Watson was the far better passer

Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9934 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:56 pm to
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thanks for showing you're arse and proving you are clueless. Jordy hasn't been their #1 WR in 2 years.


So Jordy with 97 receptions on 152 targets with 1257 yds and 14TD’s wasn’t their #1 receiver in 2016? Who is showing their arse?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202780 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:13 pm to
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Vick was a better rusher, but Watson was the far better passer


AGREED... Watson had way better talent around him for those two yaers... The game has changed so much in between those years...


Vick was amazing in 1999..... Watson was A VERY good college player, but Vick was Vince Young like in 1999............
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