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re: Could Bryce Harper be Pete Incaviglia pt. 2?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:05 pm to LSUlunatic
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:05 pm to LSUlunatic
Harper is a phenom and has been on the radar for ages due to a lot of mythology about him hitting 500 foot homeruns when he was 2.5 years old.
Really though, he has a ton of ability. He lit up A ball, struggled a little in AA, but not much of a sample to make any sweeping judgments.
Should be fun to watch him this spring and see how he fares against big league arms.
Really though, he has a ton of ability. He lit up A ball, struggled a little in AA, but not much of a sample to make any sweeping judgments.
Should be fun to watch him this spring and see how he fares against big league arms.
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:06 pm to LSUlunatic
I dunno, I kinda think Bryce Harper reminds me of Pete Weber. I know it's a different sport and they are nothing alike, but just something about Harper reminds me of the great PDW
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:07 pm to OBUDan
Hey, I pointed out Harper's numbers are pretty close to Beltre's and was told I couldn't compare the two because... well, just because, honestly. There was no reason other than he wasn't A-Rod, the other guy he gets compared to.
Harper is the fourth Greatest Prospect Ever we've had in four years. Let's just slow down the hype train a bit. He's a fabulous prospect. Not all fabulous prospects become fabulous players. Just ask Gregg Jeffries.
Harper is the fourth Greatest Prospect Ever we've had in four years. Let's just slow down the hype train a bit. He's a fabulous prospect. Not all fabulous prospects become fabulous players. Just ask Gregg Jeffries.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:10 pm to OBUDan
Could his glove be as bad as Inky's ?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:12 pm to Baloo
Yeah, it wasn't intended as a cut and dry comparison of their skill sets.
Like you said, not every star prospect turns into a superstar. The thread was more for fun than anything, to both reminisce on Inky and discuss Harper's lofty power expectations and the potential that he turn into something similar.
But of course, I know nothing about baseball. Its hard to watch baseball when you live in your mom's basement and crunch numbers all day.
Like you said, not every star prospect turns into a superstar. The thread was more for fun than anything, to both reminisce on Inky and discuss Harper's lofty power expectations and the potential that he turn into something similar.
But of course, I know nothing about baseball. Its hard to watch baseball when you live in your mom's basement and crunch numbers all day.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:12 pm to KillianRussell
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Could his glove be as bad as Inky's ?
That would be quite a feat.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:14 pm to OBUDan
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What I'm saying is that you (the general use, not you specifically) can't say in one breath "Oh this guy is such a mega mind blowing best ever talent" and then when he fails to live up to it, "Well he's just 19."
he's lived up to the hype thus far, so i dont see how i could have used that at all
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:15 pm to Baloo
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Harper is the fourth Greatest Prospect Ever we've had in four years.
I'll take great hitting prospects all day infront of great pitching prospects.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:19 pm to Baloo
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Hey, I pointed out Harper's numbers are pretty close to Beltre's and was told I couldn't compare the two because... well, just because, honestly
a lot of butthurt up in this thread.
It wasnt the comparison, it was more along the lines of saying "having a MLB career like Beltre wouldn't be disappointing".
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:19 pm to Lester Earl
Maybe I'll get to watch Brycey wax it live, since they open the season up here.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:21 pm to OBUDan
He's starting in RF on Saturday in their first spring game vs HOU
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:21 pm to Lester Earl
Yeah, Davey wants him up, so I imagine he's gonna play him every chance he gets.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:33 pm to Baloo
Stras, Upton and prior?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:39 pm to lsu31always
i think he said Heyward and Wieters. and prob Strasburg.
Strasburg is the only one on par with Harper though. As far as hype.
Strasburg is the only one on par with Harper though. As far as hype.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:39 pm to lsu31always
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Stras, Upton and prior?
was wondering.
BA's top prospects by yr
11 harper (trout, montero, dbrown, teheran)
10 jason heyward (strasburg, stanton, montero, matusz)
09 matt wieters (price, rasmus, hanson, heyward)
08 jay bruce (longoria, joba, buchholz, rasmus)
07 dice-k (gordon, dyoung, hughes, bailey)
06 delmon young (jupton, wood, hermida, sdrew)
05 joe mauer (king felix, dyoung, stewart, guzman)
04 joe mauer (bupton, dyoung, ejackson, weeks)
03 mark teixeira (baldelli, reyes, mauer, foppert)
02 josh beckett (prior, blalock, burroughs, pena)
01 josh hamilton (cpatterson, beckett, rauch, sheets)
00 rick ankiel (burrell, cpatterson, vwells, njohnson)
99 jd drew (ankiel, chavez, chen, bpenny0
98 ben grieve (konerko, beltre, wood, aramirez)
97 andruw (vlad, wood, mwhite, tlee)
96 andruw jones (pwilson, rrivera, erstad, alan benes)
95 a-rod (rrivera, chipper, jeter, bhunter0
94 cliff floyd (chipper, jhammonds, agonzalez, delgado)
93 chipper jones (btaylor, floyd, delgado, salmon)
92 brien taylor (van popp, salkeld, chipper, arhodes)
91 van poppel (acedeno, klesko, offerman, salkeld)
90 steve avery (mcdonald, olerud, jgonzalez, salomar)
ETA: rest of top 5 in parentheses
This post was edited on 2/27/12 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:47 pm to Lester Earl
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Strasburg is the only one on par with Harper though. As far as hype.
and even he wasnt BA's #1 guy. and it seems to me that to be one of the best prospects ever, youd have to be #1 on their list at some pt
This post was edited on 2/27/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:50 pm to Lester Earl
I am going off of draft hype
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:53 pm to AreJay
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and even he wasnt BA's #1 guy. and it seems to me that to be one of the best prospects ever, youd have to be #1 on their list at some pt
just talking about hype here.
from college, to being the #1 pick, tearing up the minors, to backing it up in his rookie year.
similar path Harper has taken.
Were Heyward or Wieters that hyped?
naw.
This post was edited on 2/27/12 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 2/27/12 at 2:13 pm to Lester Earl
What about Hamilton?
Didn't read through the entire thread. Just saw "comparisons." Not sure if Hamilton was brought up.
Didn't read through the entire thread. Just saw "comparisons." Not sure if Hamilton was brought up.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:48 pm to Lester Earl
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Were Heyward or Wieters that hyped?
Yes. Baseball Prospectus called Wieters the best prospect ever (and has since called him the greatest bust ever -- veering from one extreme pole to the other). The hype on Wieters was so insane, there was a tongue in cheek website called Matt Wieters Facts which was the same joke as Chuck Norris Facts, only baseball related.
Heyward was also ridiculously hyped as the best prospect since Andruw Jones, who if you recall, was once considered the Greatest Prospect Ever in his own right.
It's not "butthurt", it's disagreeing with you. and you objected to the Beltre comp long before I said it wouldn't be a bad career for Harper (or anyone).
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