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re: Could Bryce Harper be Pete Incaviglia pt. 2?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:20 pm to OBUDan
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:20 pm to OBUDan
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I know you are all about Bryce and his "bat speed." Sorry for offending your sensibilities with such an outrageously insulting comparison.
well, are you old enough to even have seen Pete Incavigilia play?
its a horrible comparison. sorry if thats insult to you.
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:23 pm to Lester Earl
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well, are you old enough to even have seen Pete Incavigilia play?
Yes, I'm old enough to have seen Pete Incavigilia play.
I admitted, from the get go, that it wasn't a superb comparison and that the sole basis was due to their reputations as big-time power hitters with high strikeout rates and low averages (in Harper's case potentially).
For a guy who is all about what he can see with his eyes, you tote quite a lofty opinion of Harper, whom I presume you've seen maybe 3-5 minutes of him playing, ever?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:25 pm to OBUDan
quote:how does this apply to Harper
with high strikeout rates and low averages (in Harper's case potentially).
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:25 pm to OBUDan
Harper has been an internet sensation since 15. I mean its not very hard to see him swing a bat.
The way veteran coaches talk about what he can do...at 18, 19... he is just destined for more.
The way veteran coaches talk about what he can do...at 18, 19... he is just destined for more.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:27 pm to Pilot Tiger
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how does this apply to Harper
I said potentially. Admittedly small sample, but it holds true for his AA numbers last year.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:27 pm to CQQ
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He stole 26 bases in 109 games last year
And Incaviglia had 33 career steals in 1,264 games, so its a valid comparison
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:29 pm to OBUDan
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OBUDan
When you can't quote a handy sabermetric stat you don't seem to know very much about baseball.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:31 pm to OBUDan
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I said potentially. Admittedly small sample, but it holds true for his AA numbers last year.
and as i said, for a guy that was supposed to be in HS last year.
hard to say he wont improve on that as he gets older.
if he swings and misses like Incavigilia at 25 then i guess we could compare them
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:32 pm to Lester Earl
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and as i said, for a guy that was supposed to be in HS last year.
IMO, you can't sit and tout his "once in a generation" abilities and then tag it with the caveat, "Well he should be in HS right now."
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hard to say he wont improve on that as he gets older.
I agree.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:33 pm to barry
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When you can't quote a handy sabermetric stat you don't seem to know very much about baseball.
Thanks
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:35 pm to OBUDan
I think a failing Bryce Harper will still a Jay Bruce type player.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:39 pm to OBUDan
Why can't he? He put up extraordinary numbers for some one his age facing the competition that he faced
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:39 pm to OBUDan
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IMO, you can't sit and tout his "once in a generation" abilities and then tag it with the caveat, "Well he should be in HS right now."
an 18 year old playing in AA says enough about his once in a generation abilities
he's going to play in the MLB as a 19 year old. I don't really have to "tag" anything. It speaks for itself.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:40 pm to papz
That seems plausible.
I should have worded my OP better, but my intention wasn't to say, "Hey, I watch Harper play and he reminds me of Incaviglia!"
I was more asking if the two could wind up with similar career outputs: solid HR total, high Ks, low average. Of course I understand Harper is a better athlete with a higher ceiling.
I should have worded my OP better, but my intention wasn't to say, "Hey, I watch Harper play and he reminds me of Incaviglia!"
I was more asking if the two could wind up with similar career outputs: solid HR total, high Ks, low average. Of course I understand Harper is a better athlete with a higher ceiling.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:43 pm to Lester Earl
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he's going to play in the MLB as a 19 year old. I don't really have to "tag" anything. It speaks for itself.
Right, and it's a remarkable accomplishment.
What I'm saying is that you (the general use, not you specifically) can't say in one breath "Oh this guy is such a mega mind blowing best ever talent" and then when he fails to live up to it, "Well he's just 19."
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:44 pm to papz
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I think a failing Bryce Harper will still a Jay Bruce type player.
I once said Jay Bruce would be better than Hanley Rameriez, I was laughed at.
I think its a pretty reasonable floor for him, assuming he doesn't start doing blow off strippers.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:47 pm to OBUDan
quote:yes you can
What I'm saying is that you (the general use, not you specifically) can't say in one breath "Oh this guy is such a mega mind blowing best ever talent" and then when he fails to live up to it, "Well he's just 19."
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:51 pm to barry
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When you can't quote a handy sabermetric stat you don't seem to know very much about baseball.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:53 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm not sure why I need to quantify my baseball fandom to either of you.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 1:02 pm to OBUDan
Shake the haters bro. This is a great thread.
To be honest, Harper kinda reminds me of Phelps, Michael. Different sport but similar hype IMO. Kinda like Incaviglia. We think alike I think. I hope.
To be honest, Harper kinda reminds me of Phelps, Michael. Different sport but similar hype IMO. Kinda like Incaviglia. We think alike I think. I hope.
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