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re: College Football Nerds expresses what most of us are thinking and know to be true...

Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2247 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:32 pm to
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I'm sure it was fun for TCU fans watching their team get absolutely manhandled by 58 points in the CFP NCG last year


I'm sure they had a blast beating Michigan and making the championship game.

They pee'd down their leg in the championship game. It happens. But let's not sit here and assume that no team like a tcu wouldn't be able to do the unthinkable. Hell everyone thought Michigan would skull drag them.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17187 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:45 pm to
College football was ruined for me when Auburn went 13-0 in the SEC and did not get to play in the NCAA title game.

Any system is better than that broken one.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10510 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 2:37 am to
Actually the BCS remained for 10 years longer than the year you stated lol
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31612 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 5:40 am to
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NCAA title game.


Has never existed at the FBS level.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13819 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 7:31 am to
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Expanding the playoff makes all of the current issues worse.


Expanding the playoffs will only solve/mitigate the issue of bowl opt-outs.

It will absolutely destroy the importance of the regular season, however. At least with the current 4 team playoff the regular season still serves as de facto elimination rounds. That, and the luster of the regular season, dies with a 12 team playoff.

I could live with bowl opt-outs, but the biggest issue for me is the transfer portal. When and how did the 1 year sit out rule get abolished? Wasn't there only a waiver for grad transfers?

The transfer portal is akin to the 1 and done in college basketball; it absolutely ruins the sport.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5059 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:10 am to
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What used to be a sport that was a 4-month long celebration of all teams, with an isolated single game to determine a winner is now a diminished 4-months in exchange for 11 interesting games at the end of the year.


Yep. And the truth is those 11 games won’t but that compelling.

USC v Stanford 2007
West Virginia v Pitt 2007
Oklahoma State v Iowa State 2011
Florida Ole Miss 2008

These games were all seismic events when they happened. They are all irrelevant in the new rules.

The only thing the new format will bring are arguments over whether a 10-3 Wisconsin team or a 10-3 ole miss team belong in the playoffs.

Who gives a shite. You ruined a 4 month long, 120 team and college expo.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54624 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:23 am to
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Actually the BCS remained for 10 years longer than the year you stated lol


They immediately changed the formula after 2003. Completely overhauled it when USC couldn't accomplish what they needed to in the regular season (sound familiar?).

SOS wasn't as important for several years after that, until SOS became important again, then it wasn't again when another darling needed a free pass.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16687 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:34 am to
The 12 team playoff is the right move. They do need to fix the portal, however.

Players shouldn't be allowed to transfer until after the season is over. You will still have NFL opt-outs, but those don't really bother me as much.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:38 am to
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Upsets are what these systems should be designed to avoid


The upsets would just clear a path for some power or be some power that has a down year and loses 3 games.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21844 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:41 am to
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push for massive change with zero concern for unintended consequences.


That’s been the most frustrating part over the last several years. Every time a bleeding heart starts going on and on about paying players, expanding playoffs, etc., there’s zero consideration for what the consequences could be and how all of that faux virtue could ruin the sport.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16687 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:43 am to
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From the very beginning the sport of college football was highly regional with a bigger emphasis on winning the conference and defeating your arch-rival.


College Football was never going to remain a regional sport. It got too popular. You have Ohio State fans who have never been to Ohio. Alabama fans who have never been to Alabama. Every Saturday, you can choose between 15 different games to watch on TV from around the country. This would not be possible if CFB was only a regional support.

I do agree that we should retain rivalries as much as possible, even if that means creating new ones.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16687 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:53 am to
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I'm sure it was fun for TCU fans watching their team get absolutely manhandled by 58 points in the CFP NCG last year.


I'm sure it was a lot of fun seeing their team beat Michigan in the playoffs to get to the championship. It sucks to lose, but I don't think TCU fans regret ever making the playoffs.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2247 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:07 am to
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It will absolutely destroy the importance of the regular season, however. At least with the current 4 team playoff the regular season still serves as de facto elimination rounds. That, and the luster of the regular season, dies with a 12 team playoff.


Except that you could go undefeated and win your conference and not have a chance to win the national championship ala auburn 2004 and fsu this year.

The college football regular season is the most over hyped thing in sports. It's just an illusion and something the media created to boost their ratings.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75250 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:15 am to
Wrong. About 10 years ago the Marcus Lattimore injury happened. That was the start. Playoffs haven't ruined anything. The portal and NIL have.

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What used to be a sport that was a 4-month long celebration of all teams, with an isolated single game to determine a winner is now a diminished 4-months in exchange for 11 interesting games at the end of the year
This is beyond stupid. College football used to be 90% of the teams out of it 4 weeks into the season because 1 loss was a killer unless you were a media favorite. Now you will have dozens of teams and their fan bases who are still alive and playing for something well into weeks 9 and 10.

I remember college ball in the 1980s and 90s and it was frustrating. Four one loss teams and they didn't play each other. They might play a 2 loss team in a major bowl and be awarded the national championship by media who didn't even watch merely because they were #1 going in to the game.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 9:18 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75250 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:19 am to
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Alabama fans who have never been to Alabama.
They've been to Walmart, close enough.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:01 am to
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Every time a bleeding heart starts going on and on about paying players, expanding playoffs, etc., there’s zero consideration for what the consequences could be and how all of that faux virtue could ruin the sport.


Where the frick do some of come up with this shite? I love how anyone who disagrees with anything now is a “bleeding heart”

NIL is name image and likeness. The push for that started because EA Sports college games used players “name image and likeness” without paying them. The NFL mad NBA players were paid. Occasionally one wouldn’t agree and he wouldn’t be in the Madden or NBA video game. Why shouldn’t Ed O Bannon get compensation for his NIL? Even if it was paid after his college career was over?

Also why do people always blame the players for NIL but don’t criticize the coaches who get $10M a year or $78M to not coach? Coaches leave teams before the bowls and no one, except the team he left cares or says that’s “ruining” the sport.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 10:17 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12601 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:05 am to
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Well a 12 team playoff will fix it


You naive frick.

Casual
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57873 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:56 am to
BCS National Championship Game was the best system
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80286 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:15 am to
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This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 11:37 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80286 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:29 am to
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Well a 12 team playoff will fix it.

I'd argue that the non playoff games will become even less meaningful almost like the NIT

What is happening is all non-playoff bowls have become like the NIT. And there is no reason at all why regular season games, for teams not making the playoff, won’t also start to feel like NIT.
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