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re: College Football Nerds expresses what most of us are thinking and know to be true...
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:45 am to Eighteen
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:45 am to Eighteen
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allow coaches to give out multi year scholarships
I don’t believe most understand this or how the scholarship process works.
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:09 pm to RollTide1987
College football should have never had a bowl system to begin with. It was fun, but also really dumb to begin with.
You can't choose a real champion that way.
You can't choose a real champion that way.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:11 pm to RollTide1987
Please do not copy and paste so much… And please add a link to the source… Thank you
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:12 pm to saint tiger225
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You can't choose a real champion that way.
That was never the intention of college football. If it had been it would have developed as such. That's why things look so disorganized and out of control right now. From the very beginning the sport of college football was highly regional with a bigger emphasis on winning the conference and defeating your arch-rival.
The media would then vote for who they thought the best team in college football was for that calendar year but that wasn't a team's ultimate goal. That all changed with the advent of ESPN and 24/7 sports coverage.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:13 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Now the sport sucks and will only get worse
Yet you all keep watching and post thousands of times about said sport. Maybe quit and things will change?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:20 pm to RollTide1987
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The playoff ruined college football
Disagree. The playoff is great and will be better with 12 teams
The problems with college football have and nothing to do with the playoff.
They are:
1. The transfer portal and more specifically the transfer workout penalty. basically no rules that prevent tampering. (NIL isn’t a problem if the transfer policies are fixed)
2. The antiquated and increasingly irrelevant bowl games. I know they have history on their side but they have been diluted and the playoffs make it worse. Kids are opting out because the risk on injury and damaging draft stock is not with playing in a glorified scrimmage.
Fix the transfer rules and get rid of the non playoff bowl games and better than 90% of the issues are solved.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:24 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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The playoff is great and will be better with 12 teams
What gives you that impression? There maybe some genuinely exciting games in the first round but as you move into the later rounds, the depth of teams like Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State will start to show. Smaller, less talented teams that pulled off exciting upsets in the first round will be obliterated in the second and third rounds by those teams which recruit better.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:28 pm to RollTide1987
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And they don't watch a minute of the NIT.
I was telling someone yesterday that every non-CFP bowl is the NIT. You’re playing for nothing. And have been told as much by everybody from the media to other coaches trying to poach you.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:32 pm to RollTide1987
quote:did you actually read what you posted? The playoff didnt ruin it. Our narrative obsessed, brain dead, sport consuming populace who boil everything down to winning a championship or anything else is literally nothing killed it
The playoff ruined college football.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:34 pm to RollTide1987
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What gives you that impression? There maybe some genuinely exciting games in the first round but as you move into the later rounds, the depth of teams like Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State will start to show. Smaller, less talented teams that pulled off exciting upsets in the first round will be obliterated in the second and third rounds by those teams which recruit better.
That may be true but lower ranked teams will play games with a chance for a title this making it more exciting for all involved.
Probably less big name opt outs with more teams in the playoff
Chance, regardless of how small that one of those teams you named get upset
The champion has to actually earn it with more games than being gifted a playoff spot because a committee likes them more than another team with a resume just as good or better
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:37 pm to RollTide1987
Y’all are missing the forest for the trees. What we are seeing now is the inevitable result of the caca-load of money coming into the sport. Period.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:43 pm to RollTide1987
We gave the players everything they wanted and it turned to shite. Waaaaaaah
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:44 pm to RollTide1987
It’s a very simple fix. Put a fricking cap on NIL money. Do not allow for players to announce portal moves until after the season.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:45 pm to RollTide1987
I agree with a lot of that but a 4 team playoff didn't do this - and it wasn't the attention from fans or the mere fact that we had a playoff. It was the emphasis from the media. Even Kirk came out and said this a year or two ago. He pledged to change that, as I recall, and he didn't follow through on that, one bit. Probably too busy crying.
Fans have been beating this drum since the playoff started, pointing out how ESPN made their entire focus for the whole season about the playoff. Why did ESPN do that? Because they thought it would be a cash bonanza for them, and that there would be no consequences.
I remember seeing TV Ratings and the big, major bowls, that had premier matchups, were pulling in better ratings than the playoff semi-finals. The playoff didn't create the current mess.
Opt outs are a thing now, and bowls suck, not because of the playoff, but because NFL money has gotten extreme and we diluted the bowl system with too many games.
Bowls used to celebrate a good season. Now they make invitations to anyone at .500 or above, and sometimes below. Why did that happen? Because of TV money, aka the big media companies like ESPN, and an overall contempt for the fans and lack of concern about the sport.
ESPN was once a champion of sport. That is no longer the case. I can remember Fowler doing Scholastic Sports America and things like that. I remember ESPN playing Notre Dame re-runs all morning long during the summer. ESPN used to bring us sports and elevate sports. Now it's just a woke enterprise for gossiping jackasses like Stephen A. Smith, a whole lineup of racists, and shows on sports betting. ESPN is the opposite of being a champion for sport. Sports bring us together. ESPN works to drive us apart. It is everything wrong with sports and society today.
Don't blame the fans for any of this. Of all the parties involved, the one party that wants more than any other to protect and preserve CFB is the fan. Coaches want sweet buyouts when they fail, players want NIL, media wants clicks, likes, and ad revenue. It's only the fans that are trying to protect this sport because this sport is about the name on the front of the jersey and fans deeply care about that name.
Entities like ESPN are the culprit here, along with the morons that have been running CFB at the NCAA and the major conferences. They don't care about the future of the sport. They only care about the money they can bring in today, even if it means the death of the sport tomorrow.
As for FSU specifically - that wasn't just an opt out game. That was a boatload of pussies that quit on their school, their coach, and their teammates. I know the incentives in CFB are jacked up, but there still has to be some accounting for having some balls and manning the frick up.
Fans have been beating this drum since the playoff started, pointing out how ESPN made their entire focus for the whole season about the playoff. Why did ESPN do that? Because they thought it would be a cash bonanza for them, and that there would be no consequences.
I remember seeing TV Ratings and the big, major bowls, that had premier matchups, were pulling in better ratings than the playoff semi-finals. The playoff didn't create the current mess.
Opt outs are a thing now, and bowls suck, not because of the playoff, but because NFL money has gotten extreme and we diluted the bowl system with too many games.
Bowls used to celebrate a good season. Now they make invitations to anyone at .500 or above, and sometimes below. Why did that happen? Because of TV money, aka the big media companies like ESPN, and an overall contempt for the fans and lack of concern about the sport.
ESPN was once a champion of sport. That is no longer the case. I can remember Fowler doing Scholastic Sports America and things like that. I remember ESPN playing Notre Dame re-runs all morning long during the summer. ESPN used to bring us sports and elevate sports. Now it's just a woke enterprise for gossiping jackasses like Stephen A. Smith, a whole lineup of racists, and shows on sports betting. ESPN is the opposite of being a champion for sport. Sports bring us together. ESPN works to drive us apart. It is everything wrong with sports and society today.
Don't blame the fans for any of this. Of all the parties involved, the one party that wants more than any other to protect and preserve CFB is the fan. Coaches want sweet buyouts when they fail, players want NIL, media wants clicks, likes, and ad revenue. It's only the fans that are trying to protect this sport because this sport is about the name on the front of the jersey and fans deeply care about that name.
Entities like ESPN are the culprit here, along with the morons that have been running CFB at the NCAA and the major conferences. They don't care about the future of the sport. They only care about the money they can bring in today, even if it means the death of the sport tomorrow.
As for FSU specifically - that wasn't just an opt out game. That was a boatload of pussies that quit on their school, their coach, and their teammates. I know the incentives in CFB are jacked up, but there still has to be some accounting for having some balls and manning the frick up.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:46 pm to RollTide1987
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We've taken a regional sport whose teams were beloved, not for the names on the back, but for the name on the front. Generations of fans tied to a school, not just a team...
And turned it into a national game, rapidly being stripped of all character and nuance in the name of money and some disingenuous ideal that ignores all context
Nailed it
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:50 pm to RollTide1987
Agree with the depth comment.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:51 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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The playoff is great and will be better with 12 teams
Expanding the playoff makes all of the current issues worse.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:54 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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That may be true but lower ranked teams will play games with a chance for a title this making it more exciting for all involved.
The illusion of a chance at winning a national championship hardly makes things more exciting.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:54 pm to RollTide1987
It’ll never happen but you’d have to destroy the CFP and any system that decides the champion to return CFB to its roots.
Let the bowl commissions figure out which teams they want to play. Let the newspapers decide the champion.
Let the bowl commissions figure out which teams they want to play. Let the newspapers decide the champion.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:00 pm to rmnldr
I'd be fine with killing the bowl tie-ins, except for the most traditional, and letting the polls do their thing. Dueling bumpers stickers won't be any worse than what we have now.
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