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re: Colin Cowherd: The greatest coach in the history of football…Jim Harbaugh.

Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:28 am to
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:28 am to
Cowherd is only saying this because Jim is 2-0 in the city of Los Angeles.
Posted by DWIGHT
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:42 am to
Pete Carrol
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:14 am to
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He was great at exploiting any and every loophole to give himself a competitive advantage and getting all (players, boosters, school admin) to fall in line.


Yeah...no other program had boosters paying their players pre-NIL. Everyone else was completely honest and above board, except Saban and Alabama.
Posted by Magnus
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:14 am to
i mean if he wins a superbowl, i mean maybe?
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:22 am to
If you spinned a wheel on a random high school, college, or NFL team and had to pick a coach beforehand to make that team as successful as possible, Harbaugh would be a good choice.

I think he’s a better X’s and O’s guy than coaches like Pete Carroll and Jimmy Johnson. He’s also an offensive guy and technical expertise is more important on that side of the ball. He also doesn’t seem to take himself too seriously, and I could see him coaching a rural high school team with 25 players and having the patience and adaptability to make them better.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:23 am to
I think he's top 3.

Won everywhere and in a big way, besides SD, but it's early.

SDSU - turned crap program into 10 wins in I think 3 years
Stanford - incredible run for that school/program
49ers - Super Bowl appearance
Michigan - national title

Guy is an all time great. Crazy considering he clearly has autism or something.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:26 am to
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Why isn’t Jimmy Johnson the best ever? He won championships at both the college and the NFL level.


So did Pete Carroll and he was arguably the last dynasty pre Saban

Cowherd is the most west coast biased guy in sports media though. Harbaugh having 4 coaching stints in California is the only reason he's saying this
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:28 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:39 am to
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James William Johnson has a CFB national title and 2 Super Bowl titles. Everything harbaugh has done Johnson has done better.

Hell, before he can get to Jimmy's level, he still has to pass up Pete
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:39 am to
That’s not what I said or implied idiot

Saban was just always a step ahead of most when it came to these things and Bama gave him an unlimited budget to do so.

You can have a shadow staff

Saban: ok I’ll have a team of 50 of them
Bama: sure we’ll cut the check

Ir was the perfect marriage.

That’s not taking a shot at Saban, there were tons of knockoffs that tried to imitate and fell flat on their face.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:46 am
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:47 am to
Not a bad take
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:10 am to
i don’t know by what standard you can call him the best.

He is very good, but he has 1 championship.

he doesn’t have the most championships

Saban has 7 NCAA championships
Belichick has 6 Superbowls

He has had success at both levels but other people have won championships at both levels.

Jimmy Johnson has 1 NCAA and 2 Super bowl
Barry Switzer has 3 NCAA and 1 Super bowl
Pete Carroll has 1-2 Ncaa and 1 Super bowl and played in another NCAA and SB

Really 0 argument to support this
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:59 am to
If you’re talking about success in college and the pros, the answer is Jimmy Johnson. Hell, you could even make a case for Pete Carroll over Jim Harbaugh.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:09 pm to
Jimmy Johnson?
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:13 pm to
quote:


Saban



quote:

He failed in the NFL because he opted for Culpepper over Brees

I've always thought he wanted Brees but that the FO forced Culpepper on him due to Brees coming off his shoulder injury.

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Really 0 argument to support this

I’m not necessarily saying Harbaugh is the best, but there’s more to it than just accomplishments.

Barry Switzer inherited a team that won the last two Super Bowls (and a damn good OU program too). Johnson inherited a national championship college team and should have done better than one national title from 1984-1988. And while Johnson deserves all the credit in the world for the Dallas turnaround, that was a unique situation with the Walker trade and a HOF QB sitting at #1 in the draft. It’s not a blueprint for everywhere and he didn’t really improve the Dolphins in his next stint. Pete Carroll was fired in NE and NYJ.

And while it would be good for Harbaugh’s case to win a SB, he has literally won significantly everywhere and never inherited a program built by someone else.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78298 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:24 pm to
but do you get to be the best coach ever because you won a decent amount everywhere?

Is he better than Saban because he had more success in the NFL while
only have a fraction of the success Saban had in college?

And is he better than Belichick in the opposite direction?

And is he better than Carroll
because he has consistent B while
winning less championships?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
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By his own criteria Pete Carroll is better than Harbaugh


By his own history you'd think it would be Carroll who Cowher used to love but since Michigan winning he's been all Harbaugh.

USC was worse than Michigan when Carroll took over, as USC was the only Pac-10 football team to never finish in the national top 10 during the previous decade.

Pete Carroll:

College:

In 2001, Pete Carroll's first USC team started with a 2–5 record but his teams then went 67–7 over the next 74 games.

2 AP National Titles,
2 BCS Championship games, 1 BCS Title
6 BCS Bowl victories
7 consecutive AP top 4 finishes
National-record 33 consecutive weeks as the Associated Press's No. 1-ranked team,
A winning record of 97–19 (83.6%)
34 game unbeaten streak
35 game unbeaten streak at home (ended by Harbaugh and Stanford)

NFL:

10 playoff appearances, 6 Division championships, 2 Conference championships, 1 Super Bowl championship.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5323 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:16 pm to
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but do you get to be the best coach ever because you won a decent amount everywhere?

I think there’s a lot to be said for winning consistently in different environments with different players and building programs rather than inheriting them.

I am not saying Harbaugh is the GOAT, but the guy is good at making chicken salad out of chicken shite. To this point, he has had impressive success everywhere.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19055 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:02 pm to
Harbaugh is a very high-floor coach wherever he goes. He'll turn around bad programs and make them very good, and he'll rarely, if ever, have a disaster season once he's been there a few years. He made a Super Bowl and won a title in college. He's an elite football coach. There are lots of arguments for who should be in the top 3/5, but it's not outlandish to say Harbaugh is in that conversation.
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