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re: CFP Rankings, 12/3

Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:01 pm to
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I use opponent win% against opponents’ opponents’ win%


And?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:03 pm to
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Actually based on this the computer rankings had FSU as 2nd
Ahh. Very well. I was referring to the Massey Composite, which in this case proves that it’s very possible for a team pike FSU to get snubbed out of the top 4, meaning we “need” the committee to “fix” such “errors.”

I hope we go to 8 one day because that seriously would be big enough for us to take humans out of it. A team might get a tough draw, but it’s virtually impossible for a consensus #1/#2 to be shut out of a bracket that big.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:04 pm to
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The intent of the CFP is to safeguard against some crazy computer anomaly that everyone is afraid of but can't explain how it would happen.


I still think you need a human component because the computers can be gamed, especially the evaluative ones.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:04 pm to
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And?
...I’d recommend you sit out the rest of this, then.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:05 pm to
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Bold statement I’m not prepared to make


I made that exact statement when everyone was losing their minds about Ohio State getting in over TCU and Baylor. I said Florida State was the pretender and all they did was go out and support that assertion with a 39 point beat down.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:06 pm to
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Right


Obviously.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80531 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:06 pm to
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I still think you need a human component because the computers can be gamed, especially the evaluative ones.


Dont use those obviously.

Use the 6 BCS computers, throw in some Jelly Juke and Adam Wilson types and call it a day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:06 pm to
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’d recommend you’d sit out the rest of this, then.



You think you've reinvented RPI. Congrats?

What's your beef with SOR?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:07 pm to
Bama dropped more spots in a 5 point loss than Michigan in a 29 point loss, thanks for proving my point.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
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Right, Bama dropped more spots in a 5 point loss than Michigan in a 29 point loss, thanks for proving my point.

Now do the rest of the ranked teams to lose to #1..


Cry me a fricking river. The rest of the country has been pissed for 20 years that SEC teams barely drop with a loss. This is because of the over ranking of SEC teams in preseason polls and subsequent losses in these epic matchups. I’m looking squarely at you, Texas A&M as a shining example of this. Look also at several years with over ranked Florida, Auburn, etc.

Now Alabama gets treated like the rest of the country has in the past and it bothers you?

Here’s the difference. Number 13 got put in their appropriate place by number 1. Alabama at 5 lost to a team almost 10 spots below them. Yeah, they’re going to drop a bunch of places. That’s how it’s supposed to work.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
39159 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
Shocked Michigan State wasn’t in there
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
A1abama dropped two spots after losing to #2. Michig8n dropped one spot after losing to #1.

Weird.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
looking like you predicted top 6 exactly right once again dude.

tremendous stuff this year fr
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:09 pm to
Couldn’t agree more, Mr. Perfect. A cunning observation as usual.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:10 pm to
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Cry me a fricking river.
This is the "I can't explain why that thing happened but I'm glad it did" response.

Also not sure you realized, you admitted you agree with me, so there's that.
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This is because of the over ranking of SEC teams in preseason polls and subsequent losses in these epic matchups.
Yea because the SEC doesn't routinely finish as the best conference in the nation with the most top ranked teams by virtually every metric, right?

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Number 13 got put in their appropriate place by number 1. Alabama at 5 lost to a team almost 10 spots below them. Yeah, they’re going to drop a bunch of places. That’s how it’s supposed to work.
So that's how it supposed to work, then why do other teams that lose to top ranked teams by much less than 29 drop more than 1 spot?
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37810 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:10 pm to
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The rest of the country has been pissed for 20 years that SEC teams barely drop with a loss.


The sec gets treated like this because we routinely have one of our very good but not division champion I.e. auburn go out of conference and beat an Oregon type and then the rest of the rankings get justified when they chip away at each other. The big ten has no win like that this year
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:12 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80531 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:10 pm to
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looking like you predicted top 6 exactly right once again dude.

tremendous stuff this year fr


Nailed it
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:10 pm to
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Use the 6 BCS computers, throw in some Jelly Juke and Adam Wilson types and call it a day.


It would be interesting. Computers can't handle things like weather, injuries, trends, etc. I know some have a recency bias component, but that's not usually their main model.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:11 pm to
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Here’s the difference. Number 13 got put in their appropriate place by number 1. Alabama at 5 lost to a team almost 10 spots below them. Yeah, they’re going to drop a bunch of places. That’s how it’s supposed to work.




Logic has no place in this argument.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:11 pm to
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What's your beef with SOR?
Doesn’t count games equally.
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