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re: Certain people act like the Superdome is one of the best sports venues.....
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
Madison Square Garden:
5 NBA Finals (2 clinched)
4 Stanley Cup Finals (2 clinched)
3 WrestleManias (I, X, XX)
8 other WWF/E "Big Four" pay-per-views
Several boxing title bouts
Concert for Bangladesh
Concert for New York
The Song Remains the Same
Balboa vs. Lang II
1 President nominated (3 conventions)
Superdome:
7 Super Bowls
11 College football national championships
5 Final Fours
1 WrestleMania (XXX)
2 Heavyweight boxing title bouts
1 Papal mass
Hurricane Katrina shelter
1 President nominated (1 convention)
Superdome gets the edge. It is the most historic extant American sporting venue.
5 NBA Finals (2 clinched)
4 Stanley Cup Finals (2 clinched)
3 WrestleManias (I, X, XX)
8 other WWF/E "Big Four" pay-per-views
Several boxing title bouts
Concert for Bangladesh
Concert for New York
The Song Remains the Same
Balboa vs. Lang II
1 President nominated (3 conventions)
Superdome:
7 Super Bowls
11 College football national championships
5 Final Fours
1 WrestleMania (XXX)
2 Heavyweight boxing title bouts
1 Papal mass
Hurricane Katrina shelter
1 President nominated (1 convention)
Superdome gets the edge. It is the most historic extant American sporting venue.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:06 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Madison Square Garden:
5 NBA Finals (2 clinched)
4 Stanley Cup Finals (2 clinched)
3 WrestleManias (I, X, XX)
8 other WWF/E "Big Four" pay-per-views
Several boxing title bouts
Concert for Bangladesh
Concert for New York
The Song Remains the Same
Balboa vs. Lang II
1 President nominated (3 conventions)
Superdome:
7 Super Bowls
11 College football national championships
5 Final Fours
1 WrestleMania (XXX)
2 Heavyweight boxing title bouts
1 Papal mass
Hurricane Katrina shelter
1 President nominated (1 convention)
Superdome gets the edge. It is the most historic extant American sporting venue.
A. I love the Superdome and think it is historic.
B. Wrestlemania? Leave those off both lists.
C. Saying "Several boxing title bouts" is really a cheap way to say this:
quote:
John L. Sullivan became the first heavyweight champion to box in the original Madison Square Garden when he defended his title against Joe Collins in 1882. Sullivan offered Collins, $1,000 and half the gate receipts of the sold out Garden if he was still standing after four rounds. Collins withstood several knockdowns, but clutched his way to a "survival victory".
In the 1940s, Henry Armstrong and Joe Louis were Garden fixtures. Louis made eight successful title defenses in The Garden. In 1942, Sugar Ray Robinson defeated Jake LaMotta in a Garden classic.
In 1951, the 37-year-old Louis came out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano. A Marciano left hook floored Louis in the eighth.
In the battle of the century, Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali met in March of 1971 for a five million-dollar purse. Frazier won "The Fight".
Ali, Frazier, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis, Duran, Ray Leonard, Jones Jr. and Mosley have all fought there
It is older, nicer, and more recognizable. It's not a bad thing be behind this place in a list.
And it is THE premier and most famous indoor concert venue. It is the biggest stop for artists of all genres for the last 60 years.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:07 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
Again these ranking are very subjective but so is this thread.
look at your own links
one of them is top stadium experiences of 2013
another is top venues worldwide by some fat nerd that writes for business insiders
the bleacher report one is from 2009, ive counted at least 5 venues that do not even stand anymore(superdome is 20 on their list)
the rolling stone article is talking the best stadiums. Most of them are new and swanky. I thought we were talking historic.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:08 pm to TheCaterpillar
MSG also functions are a major public transit HUB.
quote:
It is older, nicer, and more recognizable. It's not a bad thing be behind this place in a list.
Seriously i never understood why NOLA homer just to swing their dicks at places like this.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:08 pm to ballscaster
Madison Square Garden is the only venue that comes close to the SuperDome, but doesnt not compare when you consider the ultra-big events like the Super Bowls, Papal Mass, giant concerts.
Please tell me what important events have happened at Wrigley Field, Lambeau Field, and Fenway Park, outside of the teams that play there?
No one outside of Cubs fans, Red Sox fans, and Packers fans give a crap about those stadiums, and Lambeau Field has been remodeled so much, it isnt really Lambeau Field anymore.
The SuperDome transcends sports. It is the most-relevant and significant/historic stadium in the US.
Please tell me what important events have happened at Wrigley Field, Lambeau Field, and Fenway Park, outside of the teams that play there?
No one outside of Cubs fans, Red Sox fans, and Packers fans give a crap about those stadiums, and Lambeau Field has been remodeled so much, it isnt really Lambeau Field anymore.
The SuperDome transcends sports. It is the most-relevant and significant/historic stadium in the US.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:10 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
look at your own links
Your link came out right around the Superbowl last year. All of these list have holes, they are as subjective as it gets.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:11 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
Madison Square Garden is the only venue that comes close to the SuperDome, but doesnt not compare when you consider the ultra-big events like the Super Bowls, Papal Mass, giant concerts.
quote:
The SuperDome transcends sports. It is the most-relevant and significant/historic stadium in the US.
I agree its historic and transcends sports. You're being a huge homer to say its more historic than Madison Square Garden.
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No one outside of Cubs fans, Red Sox fans, and Packers fans give a crap about those stadiums
Thats just ignorant. I don't like any of those teams and love those stadiums. They are a part of American culture and history.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:12 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
Your link came out right around the Superbowl last year.
so it's up to date? seriously, anyone that knows of the history of the superdome would have it ranked highly. A lot of people (as these threads always prove) do not even know some of the things that have went down in there.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
Also quit with the Papal Mass thing. MSG had one too.
quote:
On October 3, 1979, Pope John Paul II held mass before 20,000 young people at Madison Square Garden,
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:14 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
so it's up to date?
No it is riding the wave. Just like album sales after super bowl half time performances.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:14 pm to TheCaterpillar
Top 10 moments in MSG
Also, if you think Superdome has had a better concert history than MSG, you are absolutely beyond the point of changing your mind. That is absurd to say.
Also, if you think Superdome has had a better concert history than MSG, you are absolutely beyond the point of changing your mind. That is absurd to say.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:15 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Also, if you think Superdome has had a better concert history than MSG, you are absolutely beyond the point of changing your mind. That is absurd to say.
No you don't understand the rolling stones have played the Dome
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:16 pm to Dire Wolf
Also:
I've been to MSG, Wrigley, and Fenway.
MSG is nice, but nothing special on the inside- the history and significance is the best part about it. I have not been since the recent renovations (which were in Summer 2012, I think).
Wrigley Field is a dump. A horrible place for baseball. The only thing it has going for it is there has been a baseball team playing there for so long, people think it matters. A very bad baseball team. I've attended at least one game there each decade since the 80's, as recently as August 2013.
I love Fenway, but it is very cramped. Way more history than Wrigley, better fans, and a better team. But there's many many better ballparks in the majors. I last saw a game there in May 2012.
Never been to Lambeau, no desire to go there.
I've been to MSG, Wrigley, and Fenway.
MSG is nice, but nothing special on the inside- the history and significance is the best part about it. I have not been since the recent renovations (which were in Summer 2012, I think).
Wrigley Field is a dump. A horrible place for baseball. The only thing it has going for it is there has been a baseball team playing there for so long, people think it matters. A very bad baseball team. I've attended at least one game there each decade since the 80's, as recently as August 2013.
I love Fenway, but it is very cramped. Way more history than Wrigley, better fans, and a better team. But there's many many better ballparks in the majors. I last saw a game there in May 2012.
Never been to Lambeau, no desire to go there.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:16 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:The lists aren't that long. You can use your imagination.
B. Wrestlemania? Leave those off both lists.
quote:The current MSG was built at its current location in 1968. The fights you cited occurred at MSG I & II at 23rd and Park, and MSG III at 49th & 9th. The current one is at 30th & 7th and has had too many heavyweight title bouts for me to research for this purpose. While the current building has been boxing's capital since 1968, your citing of these old fights has nothing to do with the current building.
John L. Sullivan became the first heavyweight champion to box in the original Madison Square Garden when he defended his title against Joe Collins in 1882. Sullivan offered Collins, $1,000 and half the gate receipts of the sold out Garden if he was still standing after four rounds. Collins withstood several knockdowns, but clutched his way to a "survival victory".
In the 1940s, Henry Armstrong and Joe Louis were Garden fixtures. Louis made eight successful title defenses in The Garden. In 1942, Sugar Ray Robinson defeated Jake LaMotta in a Garden classic.
In 1951, the 37-year-old Louis came out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano. A Marciano left hook floored Louis in the eighth.
quote:Absolutely. They all fought at the Superdome, too, but MSG has the unquestioned edge over any extant building when it comes to boxing.
In the battle of the century, Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali met in March of 1971 for a five million-dollar purse. Frazier won "The Fight".
Ali, Frazier, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis, Duran, Ray Leonard, Jones Jr. and Mosley have all fought there
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:17 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:remember this is the 3rd MSG
You're being a huge homer to say its more historic than Madison Square Garden
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:18 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
Wrigley Field is a dump. A horrible place for baseball.
For viewing a Football game Tiger Stadium> SuperDome
I have been to several big games from the best to the worst seats at both.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:18 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
No it is riding the wave. Just like album sales after super bowl half time performances.
you're reaching,
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:19 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
Lambeau Field has been remodeled so much, it isnt really Lambeau Field anymore.
truth
2010's
in the 90's
in the 60's
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:19 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:Not true. Those stadiums' histories are very fruitful (they all have hosted multiple NFL championship games). But yes they pale in comparison to the Superdome's resume.
Please tell me what important events have happened at Wrigley Field, Lambeau Field, and Fenway Park, outside of the teams that play there?
No one outside of Cubs fans, Red Sox fans, and Packers fans give a crap about those stadiums, and Lambeau Field has been remodeled so much, it isnt really Lambeau Field anymore.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:20 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
Also:
I've been to MSG, Wrigley, and Fenway.
MSG is nice, but nothing special on the inside- the history and significance is the best part about it. I have not been since the recent renovations (which were in Summer 2012, I think).
Wrigley Field is a dump. A horrible place for baseball. The only thing it has going for it is there has been a baseball team playing there for so long, people think it matters. A very bad baseball team. I've attended at least one game there each decade since the 80's, as recently as August 2013.
I love Fenway, but it is very cramped. Way more history than Wrigley, better fans, and a better team. But there's many many better ballparks in the majors. I last saw a game there in May 2012.
Never been to Lambeau, no desire to go there.
I disagree with these opinions so I'm going to bow out of this thread. Don't think we can find common ground.
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