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Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:21 pm to
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If the MVP went to the best player every season, then Kobe would have won it for like 4 years straight with his 8th seed Lakers, and Lebron would be going for his 3-peat this year because he's the best player alive right now.

Should I open up another can of worms by saying that Kobe was never the best player in the game for 4 years?
This post was edited on 4/10/11 at 6:22 pm
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:21 pm to
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Go ahead. I mean, it would be completely and utterly retarded to think that, but I guess that's par for the course for you

Total shooting %
Miami's PGs are better than Portland's
Orlando's perimeter defense is solid

Yea, it fits in nicely there.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:21 pm to
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Should I open up another can of worms by saying that Kobe was never the best player in the game for 4 years.


Co sign.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:24 pm to
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TulaneTigerFan


quote:

More outstanding yet are Rose’s individual defensive numbers. According to Synergy Sports Technology, Rose has allowed just 0.77 points per possession overall on defense this season, an elite mark for any defender, regardless of position. Chris Paul (0.86 points per possession allowed), Rajon Rondo (0.83 PPP allowed), and Russell Westbrook (0.92 PPP allowed) – all excellent defenders – have been trumped statistically this year, and by no slim margin. Rose has each of those players handily beat, and boasts a shockingly comprehensive defensive profile. … Rose is particularly effective in defending isolation sequences, where he allows just 0.61 points per possession.


Game. Set. Match.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:25 pm to
I wasn't laughing at the claim that Rose is the best PG defensively. I was laughing at you thinking that a 6'3 guard can have the same impact defensively on the game as center.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:25 pm to
Yall are crazy as hell, the Magic have great perimeter defense.

Lockdown D LINK

LINK

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Should I open up another can of worms by saying that Kobe was never the best player in the game for 4 years?



Look, I'm trying to avoid an unknownknight sighting, and you're fricking it all up.

/tryingtomeetkobefanboysinthemiddle
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:28 pm to
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Orlando's perimeter defense is solid


You do realize that they are in the upper half of the league from a statistical standpoint, right?

They are 10th in the league in opponent's 3 point percentage. I'm sure that's all because of Dwight's interior defense though.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:28 pm to
The Hinrich Maneuver
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:29 pm to
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You do realize that they are in the upper half of the league from a statistical standpoint, right?

They are 10th in the league in opponent's 3 point percentage. I'm sure that's all because of Dwight's interior defense though.

They can afford to get up in people's grill on the perimeter because Howard will be under the goal protecting the basket from drives.

Sort of like the Spurs with Duncan when he was in his prime. Except they had Bowen too.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:30 pm to
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They are 10th in the league in opponent's 3 point percentage. I'm sure that's all because of Dwight's interior defense though.
A lot easier to guard a 3 pt shooter closely when you know you have the best defensive player in the league to clean up your mess when that player blows by the shitty perimeter defender.

Do you not see how Howard can affect those numbers? Seriously?

Still waiting on a reply from you asking me to show you where you said Rose is a better shooter than Lebron, and I linked it for you.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:30 pm to
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They can afford to get up in people's grill on the perimeter because Howard will be under the goal protecting the basket from drives.
Exactly what I just said.

Amazing how you can deduce that really easily and so can just about everyone else.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:31 pm to
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I'm sure that's all because of Dwight's interior defense


Pretty much
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:32 pm to
I wonder if LeBron is still a great lockdown defender after this:

Jordan Crawford pwns LeBron
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:32 pm to
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Pretty much


It's funny how everyone that watches magic games see that is exactly what happens, but he says it sarcastically like there is no chance that Howard can affect a stat like that.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:33 pm to
And UFownstheSEC watches the Magic more than anyone on this board pretty much.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:33 pm to
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I wonder if LeBron is still a great lockdown defender after this:

Jordan Crawford pwns LeBron



Gee, I wonder why no one takes you serious and everyone makes fun of your NBA relate posts.

Hmm, no clue why.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:34 pm to
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And UFownstheSEC watches the Magic more than anyone on this board pretty much.
And gives solid analysis as well.


But nah, we're ALL wrong.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

A lot easier to guard a 3 pt shooter closely when you know you have the best defensive player in the league to clean up your mess when that player blows by the shitty perimeter defender.


You realize how stupid this is?

Opponents shoot bad from 3 point range because Howard is good in the interior.

Makes perfect sense. I guess they are worried about Howard jumping 20 feet in the air and swatting their 3 point shots. Seems reasonable to me.

quote:

Rose is a better shooter than Lebron


Rose's FREE THROW percentage is a full 10% better than LeBron's. But you're right, LeBron is the best player in the world because of his dunks.
This post was edited on 4/10/11 at 6:39 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:36 pm to
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No he's not. He may be a slightly better, but it's not much of a difference.

you do not wish to engage in honest debate

quote:

And Ellis is a 2, not a point.

he's a drive/dish point on a team with 2 combo-esque 1/2s
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