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Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:37 pm to
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Gee, I wonder why no one takes you serious and everyone makes fun of your NBA relate posts.


I'm sure the reason why Crawford was able to dunk on him was because LeBron is the best defender ever. LeBron is the GOAT.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:37 pm to
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You realize how stupid this is?

Opponents shoot bad from 3 point range because Howard is good in the interior.

Makes perfect sense. I guess they are worried about Howard jumping 20 feet in the air and swatting their 3 point shots. Seems reasonable to me.


WOW. This is like Lebron isn't a perimeter defender.

Dude doesn't understand how Dwight Howard can affect an outside shooting game, even when it was clearly explained by 2 or 3 different guys.

Unreal.
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ose's field goal percentage is a full 10% better than LeBron's.

10% better at what????

Lebron is a better outside shooter. The facts show that. I have no clue what this 10% figure you're claiming is.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:38 pm to
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Makes perfect sense. I guess they are worried about Howard jumping 20 feet in the air and swatting their 3 point shots. Seems reasonable to me.




Dude...

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:38 pm to
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I'm sure the reason why Crawford was able to dunk on him was because LeBron is the best defender ever
You think no one ever dunked on Mutombo, Mourning, or Olajuwon?

Are you that naive?
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:39 pm to
yeah, I'm pretty much the biggest Magic homer on this board and even I can admit our perimeter D sucks. Dwight impacts the game more than most can imagine, it's truly amazing.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:39 pm to
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Dude
Make that another person who completely understands how howard can affect the opposing team's outside shooting.

That's 4 guys now, but it's all stupid logic and we're wrong, obviously.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:40 pm to
Well according to you you can't be a a solid defender if you get worked over.

The numbers say that Orland has solid perimeter defense. They aren't near the best in the league, but they are in the upper half of the league. Fact.

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:41 pm to
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The numbers say that Orland has solid perimeter defense.
Because of Dwight. Everyone here has told you why and agreed he affects this greatly.

You just refuse to believe it.

Much like me PROVING that Lebron is a better outside shooter but you just blindly denying it and blindly saying Rose is better. Same thing.

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Well according to you you can't be a a solid defender if you get worked over.


I'm not the one that posted the 1 dunk. i'm the one that disagreed with it. So how can that be according to me? That'd be according ot you.
This post was edited on 4/10/11 at 6:42 pm
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:43 pm to
So Orlando's perimeter players have absolutely no affect on the perimeter? None? You do realize that's your argument right?

You do realize that anyone who knows a monkey fart about the NBA would laugh your arse out of the building, right?

Apparently, knowledge is not a requirement to talk about a sport.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:43 pm to
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I guess they are worried about Howard jumping 20 feet in the air and swatting their 3 point shots. Seems reasonable to me.
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You realize how stupid this is?


and I don't want to contribute to a pissing match, but you do realize you answered yourself when you quoted somebody else with...
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A lot easier to guard a 3 pt shooter closely when you know you have the best defensive player in the league
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:46 pm to
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So Orlando's perimeter players have absolutely no affect on the perimeter? None? You do realize that's your argument right?

You do realize that anyone who knows a monkey fart about the NBA would laugh your arse out of the building, right?

Apparently, knowledge is not a requirement to talk about a sport.


And your argument is that it's stupid to think Orlando's perimter guys can play close to the 3pt shooter because they don't have to worry about getting taken off the dribble is stupid.

Knowledge, you wanna talk knowledge.

Total shooting%
Magic good perimeter defenders
Miami's PGs better than Portland's
Rose a better outside shooter than Lebron, despite that being factually incorrect

And you consider yourself knowledgeable with all of those stuffs? LOL.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:46 pm to
I'm not saying that Howard doesn't have a big impact on his team's defense, but frick, he doesn't cover everyone. Other people contest shots as well.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:47 pm to
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and I don't want to contribute to a pissing match, but you do realize you answered yourself when you quoted somebody else with...

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A lot easier to guard a 3 pt shooter closely when you know you have the best defensive player in the league


I said that, and like you quoted, he said that notion is "stupid"

Unreal how little he seems to understand that fairly simple concept, that I honestly thought was a given that everyone who follows the NBA knows.
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:48 pm to
After Rose wins MVP and a championship maybe the Lebron fan club will come around
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:48 pm to
How many times do I have to ask you to address or admit you're wrong about Rose being the better outside shooter before you acknowledge the post?

I even broke it down by the numbers and posted em for you.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:53 pm to
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Magic good perimeter defenders


I never said good.

I said solid. Which is factually true.

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Rose a better outside shooter than Lebron, despite that being factually incorrect


Again I never said that.

Fact is, Rose is a significantly better FT shooter than LeBron.


For some reason you can't accept the fact that LeBron isn't going to win the MVP. It seems to be a common theme with you LeBron fans, especially with you. I'm a Mavericks fan and it doesn't bother me one bit that Dirk isn't going to win it despite having the best shooting year of pretty any player this year. Why do you only praise LeBron when he has flaws in his game? Why do you only acknowledge his good skills? Why are you so vested in his cause? Even Kobe fans will admit he struggle down the stretch this year. Hell Dirk's defense has never been anything spectacular. Wade tends to take nights off and not give 100%. Even Howard has problems with his temper from time to time.

Why are you such a LBJ nuthugger? Are you gay for the guy or something? I've never seen someone so invested in proving that one player is ZOMG AMAZEN! like you are with LeBron. It's not healthy and it's pathetic. You must either be a teen or a lonely old guy with no life to do that. Either way, it's very pathetic of you and still won't change the fact that Rose will win the MVP and LeBron won't win a NBA Title anytime soon.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:54 pm to
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After Rose wins MVP and a championship maybe the Lebron fan club will come around


They never will. They are like N'SYNC fans from the late 90's early 2000's. They are too vested in their retarded clause that reality is of no concern to them.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 6:55 pm to
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Other people contest shots as well.
true. Hedo has length and can contest jumpshots, but sucks at defending any type of drive to the basket. Jameer is hit or miss. J-Rich can actually play some D when he wants to, but he's far from consistent. JJ is actually decent against jumpshooters (ie: Ray Allen), but is pretty bad overall. I think Orlando's best perimeter defender is Q-Rich, and he doesn't get nearly enough playing time. Even though he's damn near 7' tall, Earl Clark is probably the 2nd best on the team, and he only gets 10+ minutes/game. If it wasn't for Dwight and SVG's strong emphasis on defense, Orlando would probably give up 120/night.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 7:00 pm to
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Again I never said that.

For the SECOND time, yes you did say that:

LINK

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For some reason you can't accept the fact that LeBron isn't going to win the MVP


We haven't been debating that for pages now.

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Why do you only praise LeBron when he has flaws in his game?

Why do you praise Rose when he has flaws in his game?

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Why are you such a LBJ nuthugger? Are you gay for the guy or something?
Why can't you have a normal debate like most human beings can without freaking out like you do EVERY time?

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I've never seen someone so invested in proving that one player is ZOMG AMAZEN! like you are with LeBron. It's not healthy and it's pathetic. You must either be a teen or a lonely old guy with no life to do that. Either way, it's very pathetic of you


So you're not invested in the opposite, and it's healthy when you constantly reply to my posts and it's not pathetic when you constantly reply to my posts, and you're not a teen or a lonely old guy with no life despite the FACT that you post just as much on the Lebron topic as me?

yea, that is definitely your par for the course logic. You spend just as much time as me, only on the opposite side of the argument, but that makes it ok and not pathetic.

Hell, at least 95% of my posts come from work, like now, while i have nothing to do sitting in an office and have nothing else to do.

Where are all of your posts coming from? Yea, let's see who's really the pathetic one who isn't healthy now.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 4/10/11 at 7:02 pm to
Y'all really need another big to help out Dwight. Any word on if Orton will be on the main roster next year or will he be back in the D-League? Are y'all looking to move him to PF or is he the heir apparent to Dwight?
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