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re: CBS story on the continued lack of MLB hitting
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:06 am to VADawg
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:06 am to VADawg
Bob Gibson and his starter peers would also pitch a shite ton of innings compared to starters these days. So maybe they were as good comparatively with today's top starters (nutrition and training has progress for all athletes), but they would get worn down during the games at some point.
It's like everyone throwing from the mound today is fresh and able to have top quality on every pitch.
It's like everyone throwing from the mound today is fresh and able to have top quality on every pitch.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:13 am to High C
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Pitchers are beyond filthy now
I sort of enjoy modern day baseball for this reason. Coming out of the steroid era I was ready for pitchers to take back control of games.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:27 am to iwyLSUiwy
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The uppercut swing being taught now
When I played (well well below MLB lol) nothing pissed off a cosch more than uppercut swing. Nothing but popups we were taught.
Now coaches teach it.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:00 am to ProjectP2294
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Guys throw harder now than they used to
Except for extreme top end guys like Miz and Miller, I am not sure about this. There have always been fireballers, and velocity was measured at a different point back in the day.
I do absolutely agree that there are more people throwing those velocities, and that breaking balls are much faster than they used to be (older pitchers, especially people who doctored the ball, had nasty movement as well).
Combine that with the lack of small ball, launch angle focus, etc, and this is what you get.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:03 am to High C
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Pitchers are beyond filthy now, and the hitters are emphasizing power and elevation in their swings. Pair those two factors and averages go down across the board.
Which is what makes Aaron Judge that much more impressive. Can hit for average AND power. When healthy, he's always in the top five for average and top three in homeruns EVERY SINGLE YEAR. If Judge could stay healthy, he would easily becomes the Greatest Hitter of All-time when you consider the context.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:03 am to LSUFanHouston
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When I played (well well below MLB lol) nothing pissed off a cosch more than uppercut swing. Nothing but popups we were taught.
Now coaches teach it.
Analytics took over the game. Schwarber is a prime example. He would've been a monster on the early 2000's A's teams
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:05 am to littleavery1948
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If Judge could stay healthy, he would easily becomes the Greatest Hitter of All-time when you consider the context.
He's a giant that hits in front of Stanton in a tiny park (when either of them can be on the field). Calm your tits.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:13 am to ragincajun03
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Bob Gibson and his starter peers would also pitch a shite ton of innings compared to starters these days.
Yeah, only one pitcher will pitch over 200 IP this year.
In 2006, 43 did that. And if you go back further it was even more than that.
To me, that's a bigger shift than the drop in 300 hitters.
It used to be 7 or 8 pitchers would handle 90% of the workload. Now you have an ace or two followed by a merry-go-round of whoever is healthy and throwing their best stuff at the moment. It's all about maximizing quality while limiting the risks of quantity.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:19 pm to High C
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hitters are emphasizing power and elevation in their swings.
Not just players, but modern metrics lean towards "bomb and gauge" baseball being more efficient for scoring runs than playing small ball.
Both the metrics and player compensation model have incentivized the shift away from hitting for average.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:26 pm to RolltidePA
The Milwaukee Brewers are 28th in team home runs and have the best record in baseball. They win with small ball, pitching, and defense.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:39 pm to SoDakHawk
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The Milwaukee Brewers are 28th in team home runs and have the best record in baseball. They win with small ball, pitching, and defense.
They and the Rays buck the trend. But the trend is still the trend and power numbers get payers paid more than batting average.
The Brewers are #4 in the league in OPS and #13 in slugging, so they aren't without pop.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:44 pm to RolltidePA
Just pointing out there is more than one way to win games in baseball. Small market teams like KC, Minnesota, and Pittsburgh should embrace the strategy Milwaukee and Tampa are using.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:51 pm to SoDakHawk
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Just pointing out there is more than one way to win games in baseball. Small market teams like KC, Minnesota, and Pittsburgh should embrace the strategy Milwaukee and Tampa are using.
Totally agree. It's funny that you say that because looking at the stats you see almost a direct correlation to what you suggest. All of the small market teams are league leaders in stats like stolen bases and the big market teams mostly lead in HRs.
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