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Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:22 pm to TH03
no shite, so they do more with less money than the other 10 teams ahead of them. Its simple math
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:23 pm to TH03
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2013 payroll: St. Louis $116,702,085
higher than 19 other teams
You want to look at it all? Here:
1. New York Yankees $228,995,945
2. Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
3. Philadelphia $159,578,214
4. Boston $158,967,286
5. Detroit $149,046,844
6. San Francisco $142,180,333
7. Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250
8. Texas $127,197,575
9. Chicago White Sox $124,065,277
10. Toronto $118,244,039
11. St. Louis $116,702,085
12. Washington $112,431,770
13. Cincinnati $110,565,728
14. Chicago Cubs $104,150,726
15. Baltimore $91,793,333
16. Milwaukee $91,003,366
17. Arizona $90,158,500
18. Atlanta $89,288,193
19. New York Mets $88,877,033
20. Seattle $84,295,952
21. Cleveland $82,517,300
22. Kansas City $80,491,725
23. Minnesota $75,562,500
24. Colorado $75,449,071
25. San Diego $71,689,900
26. Oakland $68,577,000
27. Pittsburgh $66,289,524
28. Tampa Bay $57,030,272
29. Miami $39,621,900
30. Houston $24,328,538
Courtesy of Deadspin
Of Note:
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Takeaways: A-Rod will make more than the Astros.
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The Dodgers will likely pass the Yankees for the top spot next year.
ETA: Note that the Yankees and Dodgers outspend the Phillies, the number 3 team, by nearly $60M each. That means they spend roughly 30% more than the 3rd highest paying team.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:24 pm to LoveThatMoney
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16. Milwaukee $91,003,366
Small market my arse
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:24 pm to redfieldk717
the last time they won the world series was after a $12 million increase in payroll
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:25 pm to LoveThatMoney
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No it isn't. If we're talking about the present, let's stay in the present.
Are you 10 years old?
20 years is the present. I'm 28. The Yankees have won 5 titles in my lifetime alone. That's pretty present.
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The past 10 years is a pretty good barometer of recent success.
Why?
I think the past 7 games is a better barometer for recent success. The Yankees are 6-1. The Cards are 5-2. Clearly the Yankees are more recently successful.
All I did there was narrow the scope of my data to support the argument I'm trying to make. Just like you are doing.
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Selective history is selective.
Then why are you using it?
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if the number of championships in the history of your franchise is your lone criterion for "best run MLB franchise,"
What other criterion even matters?
If you are going to talk about running a good business, then let's alter the scope of the thread and discuss "Cardinals are the best run business in Major League Baseball."
But the OP's argument is "Best team in baseball."
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PS - to give you a little nugget because you appear so butt hurt about my conclusion, in the past 63 years, the Yankees have won 9 World Series Titles to the Cardinals 5. Congratulations. You win the argument.
I'm not butt hurt.
I think you are cherry picking pieces of data to support your preconceived opinion.
To you, recent is 10 years, so that's the only data we should look at.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:25 pm to TH03
and still not close to top 5 payrolls....the top 5 payrolls should win every year
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:26 pm to mizzoukills
you're trying waaaay to hard. Take it down a notch.Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to redfieldk717
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the top 5 payrolls should win every year
really?
then why does that almost never happen?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:28 pm to TH03
because they are not well run organizations. It use to happen all the time in the 90s
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:29 pm to TH03
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then why does that almost never happen?
and the yankees have won 27 times so almost never is a stretch...throw in the red sox, phillies, etc and your comment sounds ridiculous
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:30 pm to redfieldk717
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1. New York Yankees $228,995,945
2. Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
3. Philadelphia $159,578,214
4. Boston $158,967,286
5. Detroit $149,046,844
those look like well run organizations to me. 3/5 have a WS in the past 10 years and 4 have been in the WS
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:31 pm to TH03
but i thought the top payrolls almost never win world series?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:31 pm to redfieldk717
San Fran, St Louis, Florida, Arizona, etc
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:32 pm to redfieldk717
you said they should win every year. I'm saying that doesn't happen. you can't use a couple instances of it happening to say it always happens
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:33 pm to TH03
they were your words not mine
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:34 pm to TH03
i never said it always happens i said they SHOULD
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:42 pm to mizzoukills
My favorite kills thread EVAR 
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:43 pm to mizzoukills
Tigers win the WS this year........... 
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:45 pm to TH03
The Yankees are clearly the standard for titles, and excellence.
However with ALL circumstances considered I would argue that St. Louis or the Oakland Athletics (probably them with the low payroll/stadium etc.) are CURRENTLY the most well run organizations in baseball.
I think Oakland does the most with what they have and considering some HUGE disadvantages they have. The Yankees are always going to be there due to the money factor. Although Cashman is no slouch as he has showed with the savy veteran signings he made this off-season.
However with ALL circumstances considered I would argue that St. Louis or the Oakland Athletics (probably them with the low payroll/stadium etc.) are CURRENTLY the most well run organizations in baseball.
I think Oakland does the most with what they have and considering some HUGE disadvantages they have. The Yankees are always going to be there due to the money factor. Although Cashman is no slouch as he has showed with the savy veteran signings he made this off-season.
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