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California College Baseball

Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:26 am
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:26 am
Why has it largely gone downhill? Stanford and UC-Irvine appear to be pretty good — both are ranked. But, in the past, they were pretty consistently good everywhere:

USC
UCLA
Stanford
Cal St. Fullerton
UC - Irvine
UC - Santa Barbara
Long Beach State
Pepperdine
Cal
Fresno State

Lack of coaching? Talent leaving for other schools? USC and UCLA in the B1G can’t be good for the programs as that conference is largely Midwest shite.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 7:27 am
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6972 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:30 am to
It is a regional sport
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38622 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:32 am to
Talent started going elsewhere, mostly the SEC and ACC, in the mid 2010s.

Most of these guys grow up traveling all over the country from a young age. Going to the South where it’s a bigger deal and the coaching is better isn’t a big deal anymore

Then NIL really was the death blow especially for the smaller schools that used to be really good.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:32 am to
Sure, I agree, but an exception could have been carved out for California and the Arizona schools. Sure they won’t pack 10,000+ of fat, drunken rednecks in, but lots of baseball history out West.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17434 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:39 am to
Just not much of an interest for college sports as a whole out West, as opposed to the Midwest and South.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4930 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:39 am to
Talent going elsewhere is the answer. Look at top SEC and ACC rosters and you'll see tons of CA and AZ players.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75922 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Talent started going elsewhere, mostly the SEC and ACC, in the mid 2010s.


As the TV money grew in the SEC, more athletic departments needed to find places to spend the money. So baseball grew stronger.

Also, compare the tv availability of the SEC Network vs the Pac 12 network.

Private schools were also hit hard by the overall skyrocketing of the cost to go to school with no increase in scholarship limits.

Now, any California players that do slip through the cracks and end up at a Big West school not named Santa Barbara will get snapped up through the portal before their Junior year.

ETA: There are a ton of reasons.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 7:54 am
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4530 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:57 am to
Wokeism is antithetical to competition.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53809 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Sure they won’t pack 10,000+ of fat, drunken rednecks in,


Those 10,000 fat drunken rednecks make us who we are
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2381 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:29 am to
Same reason Wichita State made 7 CWS appearances in 15 years, but none since 1996. They got left behind as other programs began to invest more heavily in baseball.
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
3116 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:40 am to
NIL and portal makes sense for Fullerton, Long Beach, etc. but if USC and UCLA want to be good, they’ll still be good. Just a matter of having people involved that want to buy players.

I’m actually kinda rooting for the Big 10 to get off it’s arse and give a shite now that the PAC schools have joined. Would be good for the overall popularity of college baseball.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36815 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Talent started going elsewhere, mostly the SEC and ACC, in the mid 2010s.

Most of these guys grow up traveling all over the country from a young age. Going to the South where it’s a bigger deal and the coaching is better isn’t a big deal anymore

Then NIL really was the death blow especially for the smaller schools that used to be really good.


this....they still have the best talent in youth travel and HS but most of the top players have been going all over the country anyways and picking up with teams

example...in BR this weekend their is the PG super nit, one of the biggest tournaments of the year...the best 3 kids from Cali in their age group are playing with a team from florida. These kids have friends all over the country.

But the top cali kids are mainly going SEC or MLB and then some to ACC, then lots to big 12. None stay because facilities are better at those schools, the weather is better than going to the Pacific NW and playing in Big 10 and then they get better coaching in the south/east coast/arizona.

as mentioned, They also get better scholarship money and NIL at those schools. I do feel like Stanford, USC and UCLA can compete if they invest heavily. Baseball kids still do value education at a much higher rate than other sports so the education aspect would come into play big time.

but in general the west coast schools are way behind on everything, even behind schools like ULL, UCONN, Southern Miss, Coastal and other mid majors. Same reason Tulane has fallen off.


also outside of Southern Cali....the weather is more conducive to playing baseball most of the year in the south.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
1949 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:12 am to
there is just nowhere to watch cal b-ball on tv really...kids are going to sec and big 12
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

It is a regional sport


And California used to be that region
Posted by 214
United States of America
Member since Mar 2025
5342 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 1:14 am to
Great observation and question. Many on point answers in this thread. Very informative.

Was listening to a college baseball podcast which mentioned Cal Poly who started 1-5 and are now 13-6 (6-0 in the Big West). Might be a team to watch for in postseason play.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27182 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:57 am to
After Skip drugs his nuts across the state of California ….it was over.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7477 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 7:25 am to
Those schools got really good with local talent at a time when other parts of the country weren’t investing anything in to their baseball programs. Once college baseball became more popular it was only a matter of time before the evolution of the game cut the legs out from the little west coast schools
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3109 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:08 am to
Nobody west of roughly I-35 has won a national title in Basketball since 1997.

West coast isn’t that bad at baseball. Didn’t UCLA win some baseball in the last 15 years.
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