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re: BYU win & Duke win + Bama loss

Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:06 am to
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:06 am to
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Alabama is currently 10th. The last spot to earn a potential bid. You're telling me they could lose and not drop in a ranking? I don't believe it

Yep.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:06 am to
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They already showed this by keeping SMU in field last season.
Not remotely the same

Smu was 11-2 after their conf loss

Bama was 9-3. SMU still had the record record

That isn’t remotely the same as bama being 10-3 and Miami being 10-2, a better record

Smu also lost on a walk off FG. You are telling us UGA winning by 17 still wouldn’t make bama drop a single spot
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:08 am to
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Alabama is currently 10th. The last spot to earn a potential bid. You're telling me they could lose and not drop in a ranking? I don't believe it.
He is burying his head
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72061 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:13 am to
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As much as I hate them, it's kind of messed up if they get penalized for playing an extra game.



They’ve benefited more than once of not playing in it. One time, the team that beat them lost in the conference championship and then Alabama got to go instead of them.

No compassion from a reasonable person.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:14 am to
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They’ve benefited more than once of not playing in it. One time, the team that beat them lost in the conference championship and then Alabama got to go instead of them.
Yeh I didn’t even bring up that example

“But that was 12 teams!!!’”

The logic is the logic. Either humans think you can be penalized for a conf champ or not. Clearly the committee has no issue penalizing teams for it
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72061 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:17 am to
Either everyone needs to be or nobody needs to be.

The fact that it applies to certain teams is what makes it bullshite.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:18 am to
Bama will absolutely fall with a loss outside of a very close hard fought loss
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41254 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:19 am to
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don't see how Alabama gets in with a loss period.


They will not be jumped by teams whom do not play in conference title games.

That’s why they were left out last year, SMU was ahead of them prior to the conference title game and remained so afterwards despite losing.

Now BYU winning takes a spot away from at large teams, but Duke doesn’t as there will be 5 conference champions getting in regardless of who they are and I do not believe both Miami and Notre Dame will get in as an at large regardless of conference championship game outcomes.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41254 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:20 am to
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Bama will absolutely fall with a loss outside of a very close hard fought loss


They will not fall behind teams that don’t play this weekend.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:20 am to
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They will not be jumped by teams whom do not play in conference title games
has happened multiple times before

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That’s why they were left out last year, SMU was ahead of them prior to the conference title game and remained so afterwards despite losing.
Smu was 11-2
Bama was 9-3
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:20 am to
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They will not fall behind teams that don’t play this weekend.
Has happened multiple times
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41254 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:21 am to
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The committee has penalized teams for losing conference champ games and let a team sitting at home jump them


Who?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:24 am to
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Who?
Wisconsin 2017

Was ranked 4th. Lost in big 10 champ game and fell out of playoffs and replaced by bama who didn’t play conf champ

Auburn. Ranked 3rd. Lost in SEC champ games and you guessed it, replaced by bama who sat at home (and lost to Auburn 8 days before)

Also, just last year, SMU fell behind a team that didn’t play conf champ week.

This “teams can’t be penalized for a conf champ game” is completely made up based on past occurrences
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90292 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:26 am to
No, we'll be in as long as it's not a blowout as we should be.
Posted by H2A2
South
Member since Jun 2023
191 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 12:44 pm to
So you kick out #5 Texas Tech for the same thing ??? I just dont see a world where Texas Tech doesn't get in over Bama
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4170 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 12:56 pm to
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If BYU wins and Bama loses, Bama is out.

And that is the only scenario where Bama is out.


This. BYU winning eliminates the final at large spot, whoever is sitting in it really wants Texas Tech
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38130 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 12:57 pm to
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I dont see how you dont reward BYU for beating #5 Texas Tech...
it wouldn’t matter what they want to do in this scenario. By their own rules byu would be automatic for winning the conference.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86275 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 12:58 pm to
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I dont see how you dont reward BYU for beating #5 Texas Tech...
huh? Winning gives them an auto bid
Posted by H2A2
South
Member since Jun 2023
191 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 3:16 pm to
You right It would be between Tech and Bama at that point
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13117 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Is Bama left out in this scenario?


Based on the current rankings, yes. But I would not be stunned to see Bama jump Notre Dame this Tuesday.

ESPN controls the playoff. ESPN broadcasts the SEC championship which is a more valuable game than all of the first round playoff games based on ratings. They can create justification for dropping ND based on Pitt and A&M losing.

Historically teams have dropped for losing in their conference title game, but no one discussed eliminating these games until the 12 team era.

It’s possible BYU winning and Bama losing would drop Bama out. But I think that’s the only way Bama misses, and I also think the committee may drop Notre Dame instead to protect the cash cow SEC title game.
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