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Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:57 am to Crede15
quote:
we can find a more permanent shortstop in the offseason
ha, you act like solid SS's are a dime a dozen. Rather, it's quite the opposite. Good SS's are coveted and gaurded closely. Yet we have managed to give away 2 of them in the last few years.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:58 am to Pilot Tiger
So now what will the lineup look like?
Prado
Heyward
Jones
McCann
Gonzales
Glaus
Blanco
Cabrera
?
Prado
Heyward
Jones
McCann
Gonzales
Glaus
Blanco
Cabrera
?
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:58 am to glb
Andrus 
Yunel
Yunel
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:01 pm to Ron Mexico
Wow, I can't believe this. The Braves got had.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:02 pm to Hullabaloo
This trade is beyond stupid. Yunel makes 415k and plays one helluva defense. We lead the league in double plays turned and I would take my chances with Yunel at the plate being a career .291 hitter...Couldve gotten so much more than a mediocre SS who is playing reasonably well. I think this is very similar to the McLouth trade. Mediocre player who played well for a bit and then will come back down to normal...
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:03 pm to Hullabaloo
quote:
Andrus
Giving up him and Feliz for that greedy bastard Texiera was one of the worst trades of the last decade in MLB.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:03 pm to The Sad Banana
yunel is a headcase and hasn't produced. If AG produces like he has been, the team is improved dramatically for the second half. If that helps stave off a Mets or Phillies run, I'm all for it.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:05 pm to Hullabaloo
When is enough, enough? Are we really that upset about losing Yunel for the future? Really? I was a huge fan from his first year but it was always a "and wait till he grows the frick up" kind of thing. He never did.
At worst we got a guy who's actually a real life professional, who's a plus defensive shortstop, and who can hit the ball out from time to time. And we got rid of JoJo. And we got rid of Yunel.
I'm not thrilled exactly, the long term of this trade won't be decided till we figure out who we can sign in the offseason but obviously Frank and Bobby thought he was enough of a frickup that we could do better going forward.
At worst we got a guy who's actually a real life professional, who's a plus defensive shortstop, and who can hit the ball out from time to time. And we got rid of JoJo. And we got rid of Yunel.
I'm not thrilled exactly, the long term of this trade won't be decided till we figure out who we can sign in the offseason but obviously Frank and Bobby thought he was enough of a frickup that we could do better going forward.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:05 pm to Pilot Tiger
A Gon splits for his career
1st half:
84 homers, .255 avg, .714 OPS
2nd half:
47 homers, .236 avg, .666 OPS
frick
1st half:
84 homers, .255 avg, .714 OPS
2nd half:
47 homers, .236 avg, .666 OPS
frick
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:05 pm to Pilot Tiger
Any possible way this trade gets broken up?
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:08 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:
Wow, I can't believe this. The Braves got had.
Not really. Yunel doesn't have much of a future in MLB unless he can get his head out of his arse. Even when he is playing well, he is basically a lazy malcontent. Think Manny Ramirez with 1/5 the talent. I think the dozen or so ground balls he didn't run out the last couple of weeks finally pushed the whole organization over the edge with him.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:09 pm to Crede15
quote:
I'm not sure about the future, obviously we were just sick of Yunel and assume we can find a more permanent shortstop in the offseason but we are not going to all of a sudden start falling from the sky because we lost fricking Yunel Escobar.
dude, where did i say that we would fall, i CLEARLY posted that we wouldnt fall bc weve put ourselves in first with him in the lineup, so go to a fricking reading comp class. the point is why trade him away for a guy who has clearly peaked and has shite numbers, who is 33, and who will not be coming back, and we have no replacement in the farm
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:12 pm to lsulefty5
quote:
I think this is very similar to the McLouth trade. Mediocre player who played well for a bit and then will come back down to normal...
not really, mclouth put up a 30-30 year, that is not just playing well for a bit
that was just a case of a guy just falling off the face of the earth. there was no way to tell that was going to happen
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:13 pm to Ron Mexico
I think Nate gets his head out of his arse in the 2nd half of the year. But thats just me.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:13 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
dude, where did i say that we would fall, i CLEARLY posted that we wouldnt fall bc weve put ourselves in first with him in the lineup, so go to a fricking reading comp class. the point is why trade him away for a guy who has clearly peaked and has shite numbers, who is 33, and who will not be coming back, and we have no replacement in the farm
Chill man, I can't remember any point in my post where I said Ron Mexico said we were going to fall apart. It was SwampDonks. I should have specified.
Like I said I'm not thrilled, I'm just not nearly as upset as some people. I just got sick of Yunel, he's a loser, plain and simple. He's the dreaded combination of being dumb, lazy and having a chip on his shoulder.
It would be nice to know who's supposed to be available in the offseason. Obviously it leaves us with a hole that we have to fill.
This post was edited on 7/14/10 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:15 pm to Robot Santa
quote:
Giving up him and Feliz for that greedy bastard Texiera was one of the worst trades of the last decade in MLB.
dont forget harrison, beau jones, and salty
god, had salty panned out, that might have been the biggest fleece in recent years tradewise
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:15 pm to Crede15
quote:
It would be nice to know who's supposed to be available in the offseason.
Shortstops
Alex Gonzalez TOR
Christian Guzman WAS
J.J. Hardy MIN
Omar Infante ATL *
Cesar Izturis BAL
Derek Jeter NYY
Julio Lugo STL
Jhonny Peralta CLE *
Edgar Renteria SF *
Jose Reyes NYM *
Jimmy Rollins PHI *
Ramon Vazquez PIT
find us a winner, man. The asterisks have options in their contracts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:15 pm to Crede15
quote:
t would be nice to know who's supposed to be available in the offseason.
Alfredo Amezaga (33)
Orlando Cabrera (36) - $4MM mutual option with a $500K-$1MM buyout
Juan Castro (39)
Alex Cora (35) - $2MM option vests with 80 games
Craig Counsell (40)
Bobby Crosby (31)
Adam Everett (34)
Alex Gonzalez (33) - $2.5MM club option
Khalil Greene (31)
Cristian Guzman (33)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (35)
Cesar Izturis (31)
Derek Jeter (37)
Julio Lugo (35)
Jhonny Peralta (29) - $7MM club option with a $250K buyout
Nick Punto (33) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Edgar Renteria (35) - $10.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jose Reyes (28) - $11MM club option with a $500K buyout
Miguel Tejada (37)
Juan Uribe (31)
Omar Vizquel (44)
old arse motherfrickers for 1000, bob.
Posted on 7/14/10 at 12:16 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:
yunel is a headcase and hasn't produced. If AG produces like he has been, the team is improved dramatically for the second half. If that helps stave off a Mets or Phillies run, I'm all for it.
yeah , well all numbers point to him not keeping it up, plus hes 33 and probably wont be back, we have just fricked our future at the same time. the shite isnt just checkers
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