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re: Brady Quinn jumps Tim Tebow for Broncos 2nd string QB
Posted on 8/23/11 at 8:07 am to tycertd
Posted on 8/23/11 at 8:07 am to tycertd
and why are we arguing with yall about T-blow anyway- he wont be successful @ the next level so stop with all the stat bullshite. t-blow success at UF was bc:
1.) Dan Mullen not Urban
2.) Talent discrepancy in college vs more = playing field in NFL
3.)Offensive fit his style of play.
the dude wont be successful and the only thing about that that makes me happy is the fact that you florida jort wearing inbreds refuse to see the obvious- the spread will QB will never translate into a successful pro QB in the NFL.
1.) Dan Mullen not Urban
2.) Talent discrepancy in college vs more = playing field in NFL
3.)Offensive fit his style of play.
the dude wont be successful and the only thing about that that makes me happy is the fact that you florida jort wearing inbreds refuse to see the obvious- the spread will QB will never translate into a successful pro QB in the NFL.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 8:33 am to tycertd
UFownstSECsince1950 is the reason why I am SO glad that Urban is gone. It will be great seeing that fan base come back down to earth with Will Muschamp.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 9:01 am to beardedzeus
Hahaha, some LSU fans are rather cute. "jort wearing inbreds"? Did you come up with that all by yourself?
Fwiw, I don't think Tebow will do anything in the NFL either. I also doubted him for a while @ UF, didn't think he would get drafted in the 1st round, and never thought he would start an NFL game either. As big of a TT fan/supporter that I have been, he has continuously proven me wrong day after day. I still don't think he'll be a career starter in the NFL, and hope I'm wrong about that.
But for those of you calling him an inaccurate, overrated, gimmicky, product of the system college qb.....I can only respond with a big LOL
Fwiw, I don't think Tebow will do anything in the NFL either. I also doubted him for a while @ UF, didn't think he would get drafted in the 1st round, and never thought he would start an NFL game either. As big of a TT fan/supporter that I have been, he has continuously proven me wrong day after day. I still don't think he'll be a career starter in the NFL, and hope I'm wrong about that.
But for those of you calling him an inaccurate, overrated, gimmicky, product of the system college qb.....I can only respond with a big LOL
Posted on 8/23/11 at 9:49 am to tycertd
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t-blow success at UF was bc:
1.) Dan Mullen not Urban
2.) Talent discrepancy in college vs more = playing field in NFL
3.)Offensive fit his style of play.
God this is a dumb post. I hated tebow at Florida. But it is hilarious how some lsu fans can discredit ANYBODY.
1) So let's make sure you say the same thing about Cam Newton/Gus Mahlzon and Vince Young/Greg Davis. The three of them had three of the best statistical seasons for a qb in college football history so let's not give any of them full credit.
2) Same for this. They all played on championship teams so they don't get credit. For that matter we need to rake credit away from any good player at lsu since talent wise we are far better than most trams we play. Tebow should have went to Vandy if he really want to prove himself.
3) omfg god forbid an offense fitting a players style of play. Well EVERY HEISMAN WINNER IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL has this discredit to them then. Tommy Frasier you little douche you were only good because Nebraska ran the option and you were good at the option. Not fair. For you to win the Heisman Nebraska should have ran the option and you ran the spread. Then you would have been a legit qb.
This post was edited on 8/23/11 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/23/11 at 10:03 am to RammerJammerBammer
Never heard that before? It is a pretty good nickname.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 10:08 am to iwyLSUiwy
The anti-Tebow brigade is at least as retarded as the Tebow Fanboy Society.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 10:35 am to Sophandros
There is really nothing anybody can say to discredit Tebow's college career. It was nothing short of incredible. That's not automatically going to mean he'll be a great or even serviceable NFL QB. It's just a different game. Gaudy college stats don't necessarily mean a QB can play in the NFL, even for a pocket passer like Jason White. I'm in the camp that doesn't think his skills translate to the NFL. I laughed my arse off at the draft pick and I've always seen him as more of a fullback/TE prospect than a QB in the league.
That said, Tebow could be one of those players that is just better in game situations than he is in practice. I keep hearing about how he's so laughably horrible in practice, but he hasn't been bad at all when he's gotten on the field. He looked pretty promising for a rookie when he got on the field last year at the helm of a pretty bad team. If the Broncos are convinced that Orton isn't the future, then I don't see why they wouldn't just see what Tebow's all about in games. I mean, the best this team's going to do with Orton is probably 8-8. It's worth sacrificing an 8-8 season to see if your 1st round QB pick is worth anything.
That said, Tebow could be one of those players that is just better in game situations than he is in practice. I keep hearing about how he's so laughably horrible in practice, but he hasn't been bad at all when he's gotten on the field. He looked pretty promising for a rookie when he got on the field last year at the helm of a pretty bad team. If the Broncos are convinced that Orton isn't the future, then I don't see why they wouldn't just see what Tebow's all about in games. I mean, the best this team's going to do with Orton is probably 8-8. It's worth sacrificing an 8-8 season to see if your 1st round QB pick is worth anything.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 10:54 am to RLDSC FAN
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A lot of rumors right now that Tebow will be cut or traded by Labor Day because he's supposed to receive a $6.25 million bonus if he's still on the roster by September 2nd.
no hate for TT since he was one of the best college QBs to ever play IMO - but if he can't even earn a 2nd string position in the NFL he absolutely should be cut
When you make a mistake in the draft the only thing for it is to recognize it and move on instead of throwing more good money after bad
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:15 am to molsusports
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no hate for TT since he was one of the best college QBs to ever play IMO - but if he can't even earn a 2nd string position in the NFL he absolutely should be cut
he hasn't had a chance because Elway feels like
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When you make a mistake in the draft the only thing for it is to recognize it and move on
The thing I don't understand is that it cost them $0 to give Tebow a chance. They are alienating the fan base by trying so hard to prove that Tebow sucks. They aren't fooling many people here.
They are purposefully sabotaging Tebow's chances at an NFL career. And, they have no reason to do so. If they are so confident he's a flop, they could throw him to the wolves and let his play show it on the field.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:27 am to hashtag
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They are alienating the fan base by trying so hard to prove that Tebow sucks.
As an outsider with no dog in the fight I hear this and my skepticism shoots through the roof
If Tebow can really play and is just being given a raw deal by Elway it may well bite them in the arse - mostly because someone else may take a chance on him and he could then produce
But I just doubt that is the case - my bias is that Orton is a legitimate NFL starter (not a franchise QB but solid enough) - BQ or TT? I dunno - and I have a hard time believing they are just out to frick Tebow
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:29 am to molsusports
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no hate for TT since he was one of the best college QBs to ever play IMO - but if he can't even earn a 2nd string position in the NFL he absolutely should be cut
That's the thing I keep reiterating though. Tim Tebow will NEVER beat out Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn in a practice situation. He's not a pocket passer.
I bet Orton and Quinn are amazing when there's no fear of contact.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:31 am to hashtag
quote:I'm sorry, but I just find this conspiracy theory to be ridiculous.
They are purposefully sabotaging Tebow's chances at an NFL career.
quote:And this is your proof. John Elway, Pat Bowlen, and John Fox are not Al Davis and his merry band of misfits. These guys are professionals who are looking to run a successful franchise.
they have no reason to do so.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:34 am to Jamohn
Exactly.
As I've said a lot on this forum, all the Tebow Fanboys need to chill out and let their guy sit this year, come in on certain packages, and have the benefit of being in this system getting coached by these coaches for an entire off season.
He was hurt by the lockout, and his development was delayed by a season.
No big deal.
There is no good reason to rush him out there right now.
As I've said a lot on this forum, all the Tebow Fanboys need to chill out and let their guy sit this year, come in on certain packages, and have the benefit of being in this system getting coached by these coaches for an entire off season.
He was hurt by the lockout, and his development was delayed by a season.
No big deal.
There is no good reason to rush him out there right now.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:35 am to molsusports
Elway has said time and time again that tebow is not his guy and there have been multiple reports tebow has no support from coaches or FO...think about that. A 2nd year guy who showed promise in ONLY 3 starts and he has ZERO support
There is a perception tebow is getting shafted. Now starting orton this year is the right call. Putting him over Brady Quinn...fricking stupid and adds to the speculation that elway is dicking tebow over...INSERT CIRCUMCISION JOKE HERE
There is a perception tebow is getting shafted. Now starting orton this year is the right call. Putting him over Brady Quinn...fricking stupid and adds to the speculation that elway is dicking tebow over...INSERT CIRCUMCISION JOKE HERE
Posted on 8/23/11 at 11:37 am to Sophandros
After you left yesterday's thread, the rantards came out in force
Posted on 8/23/11 at 12:01 pm to Sophandros
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and let their guy sit this year, come in on certain packages, and have the benefit of being in this system getting coached by these coaches for an entire off season.
This is definitely what needs to happen. Rookies that get this treatment benefit. But are the Broncos willing to do do this with him?
Posted on 8/23/11 at 12:03 pm to TTsTowel
I've honestly never though Tebow was going to be a successful NFL QB ever since he was in college. Because of his mechanics, long release, arm strength, etc. But I left out one VERY important thing:
Tebow is a winner. A gamer. He wins football games and does everything he can to win. I think Denver would be smart to start him.
Tebow is a winner. A gamer. He wins football games and does everything he can to win. I think Denver would be smart to start him.
Posted on 8/23/11 at 12:09 pm to DelU249
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Elway has said time and time again that tebow is not his guy and there have been multiple reports tebow has no support from coaches or FO...think about that. A 2nd year guy who showed promise in ONLY 3 starts and he has ZERO support
why do you think this is?
as a group they all just hate him?
I dunno - as a casual fan without an emotional investment I look at reports saying Brady Quinn has played better and think that's all that is going on
I'm not even going to argue with anyone who doesn't think Kyle Orton is the starter between KO, BQ, and TT - if you don't think he's the best option at QB then you are just hoping for development that isn't there right now
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There is a perception tebow is getting shafted. Now starting orton this year is the right call
I agree with you on both counts here - I just kinda think people loving TT for being a good person or great college QB has probably confused the issue
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