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re: Brady Aiken hires agent; Eligibility questioned; Deadspin blames Astros

Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102321 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:48 am to
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Brady Aiken hires agent; Eligibility questioned; Deadspin blames Astros


Lsuhoohoo blames Close/Aiken. So theres that.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95025 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:54 am to
I just think its funny that everyone on this board and anyone else saying that this is a terrible situation thinks Aiken is going to about 6.5 now that the info about his arm is out.

Like other MLB will just ignore that and go ahead and take him 1:1 and pay him the bonus he deserves.

The Astros are so mean and didn't want to pay full price for a kid that could throw out his elbow sooner than later

Wah.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102321 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:13 am to
I just feel bad for poor Matt Krook. Those fricking cheap Marlins jipped him over a injury concerns that he felt were minor. He took his talents to Eugene and blew out his arm. Where's the outrage for Matt? #JusticeforKrookie!
Posted by oilmanNO
Member since Oct 2009
2876 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:24 am to
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You're right...if I don't believe it's an issue I never budge from the 6.5 previously agreed to.


And then you end up with 0 like he did. Genius move
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95025 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:55 am to
That's gonna be my Sig the rest of the year.

#justiceforMattKrook
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:55 am to
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And then you end up with 0 like he did. Genius move



He's betting on himself.

He wouldn't be the first guy to turn down an offer and get more the next time. Mark appel can tell you about that. Admittedly It's hard to see aiken going #1 (certainly not number 2) in next years draft but it's conceivable that he could get a similar draft bonus to reach 5 million and not have to play for a club he believes he screwed him.

So it's not as simple as "end up with nothing."
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95025 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:05 am to
Appel didn't have a deformed tendon in his arm.

Now that Aiken has had his physical publicized, you honestly believe that someone is going to pay him $6.5M? Tell me how that's aa smart business investment?

#Justice4MattKrookandGrantBalfour
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:15 am to
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Now that Aiken has had his physical publicized, you honestly believe that someone is going to pay him $6.5M?


No i said its possible he gets a 5m offer and doesn't have to play for a club he believes screwed him. he already got one 5m offer.

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Appel didn't have a deformed tendon in


Is that confirmed, for aiken that is? Because I also read that it could be the bone where the tendon connects which would certainly be cause for grave concern. I'm cynical so i think that any guy who throws in the high 90's is going to require tommy john surgery at some point anyway, but if the bone is messed up and you can't attach it right then it's a bigger deal.

I just don't know how you put valuation on that from 6.5 to 5. If the astros had stuck with the 3.1 million offer (basically saying no way we believe you can make it) I'd be fully on board that this guy's so fricked up he cant' make it, or was that just an effort to get nix?
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:17 am
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7591 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:22 pm to
He was never going to Ucla anyway. The smart play for him would be to play a year in independent ball and re enter draft or sign as a free agent next summer
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:23 pm to
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#Justice4MattKrookandGrantBalfour


Throw Matt Purke in there too. We played in the same district back in high school. Guy went 14th overall but turned down the money, went to TCU, actually kicked arse at TCU first 2 years, but got hit by the injury bug his draft eligible year, ended up being a 3rd rounder out of TCU, but has yet to surface with the Nationals farm system.


ETA: MILB.com is showing he is back on the DL after posting a 1-6 record with a 8.04 ERA to start this season. Ouch.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:28 pm to
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The Astros are so mean and didn't want to pay full price for a kid that could throw out his elbow sooner than later

Wah.


If the medical info is accurate and not just some power play by the Astros, I'm fine with that.

If the Astros run to the NCAA and cost him his eligibility though...that's a dick move IMO.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30982 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:40 pm to
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or was that just an effort to get nix?

Nix was in the bag either way, as long as Aiken signed for the original 6.5 or less. The offer of 5 was as high as they could go and still get Marshall.
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from 6.5 to 5. If the astros had stuck with the 3.1 million offer (basically saying no way we believe you can make it)

The first reports were that the offer immediately went to 5, then when Close went to the media several days later he said the only offer was 3.1, and then at the last minute it allegedly went back to 5.

Is it possible 5 was the number being kicked around in verbal negotiations, and the 3.1 was officially offered in writing (for documentation purposes as it relates to the 1.2 pick next year)?
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10320 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:48 pm to
Aiken will look back years from now and regret not taking $5 million
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78304 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:51 pm to
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If the Astros run to the NCAA and cost him his eligibility though...that's a dick move IMO.


I'm pretty sure after the deadline, Lunhow made statements basically saying that Aiken did nothing to hurt his eligiblity.

I don't like the Astros, but at least they aren't the Phillies.
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:22 pm to
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I don't like the Astros, but at least they aren't the Phillies


Yeah I think it was Aikens "advisor" coming out and opening up like he did that could ultimately cost him his eligibility.
Posted by Ninja Looter
Member since Sep 2008
1848 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Throw Matt Purke in there too. We played in the same district back in high school. Guy went 14th overall but turned down the money


That's not how it went down. Purke and the Rangers agreed to a 6 million bonus pre-draft deal that was axed by MLB.
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:00 pm to
Ultimately Purke did turn down the money. Sure MLB axed the initial deal, but he was still offered a lot and he opted to go to TCU instead.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:04 pm to
MLB.com and USA Today both reported Purke walked away from a $4 mill offer by the Rangers

LINK

LINK

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He ultimately turned down $4 million.
From the USA Today article.


ETA: Ultimately, Purke did what Matt Krook did. He walked away from really good money thinking he could better his position, but ultimately lost out on a big pay day due to injury.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Ninja Looter
Member since Sep 2008
1848 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:19 pm to
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ETA: Ultimately, Purke did what Matt Krook did. He walked away from really good money thinking he could better his position, but ultimately lost out on a big pay day due to injury.


Except for the fact Krook and Aiken were offered less after their physicals. There was nothing wrong with Purke when he was drafted.

Futhermore, you are also ignoring the biggest difference which is there was no hard slotting when Purke was drafted. Brady Aiken will not be offered that amount of money again because he would have to get drafted in the top 5 picks which won't happen with his nearly nonexistent UCL. Purke turning down 4 million when he did wasn't like it is now because he wouldn't have to be picked top 5 to recoup that money.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81644 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Appel didn't have a deformed tendon in


Is that confirmed, for aiken that is?


Prom went to McNeese, he is practically a surgeon and a MLB scout.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 5:26 pm
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