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re: Billick: If I had the #1 overall pick with every player in NFL history available
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:37 pm to Jwho77
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:37 pm to Jwho77
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That's a brutal assessment of Elway. How many Hall of Famers did he play with during his career with Denver (Terrell Davis would have been one if he had not been injured and provided the balance to help Elway get over the hump, of course)? Yet Elway took them to five Super Bowls and won the ones his team was remotely capable of winning.
You just can't talk about Elway "taking" his team to five superbowls with a straight face. TD carried the teams that won the Superbowl.
In Elway's third Superbowl appearance the Denver Broncos also had the #1 statistical defense in teh NFL.
Plus the AFC was also the weaker conference back in those days and making a superbowl from the AFC was a much easier task than going through the 49ers, Redskins, Giants, and Cowboys in the 80s and 90s
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:38 pm to Buckeye06
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it's arguable that Elway had a ton of talent in his 2 wins
I never said this..............
Lets put it this way. Montana or Brady or Manning or Favre could NOT have done what Elway did for his 1st three sb' teams..........
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:39 pm to Tiger Ryno
What makes Graham the greatest, even if you were picking today? Arm? Pocket presence? Indomitable will?
This is a player from the 40's and you're saying if you were building a team in 2013 and had the pick of any NFL player ever, he would be the one. Why?
This is a player from the 40's and you're saying if you were building a team in 2013 and had the pick of any NFL player ever, he would be the one. Why?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:43 pm to Walking the Earth
Because he was basically Babe Ruth of his time. He was part Favre (w/o all the picks), part Cunningham, a winner in the mold of Brady or Montana, a deep ball bomber like Bradshaw and a true leader of men like Ray Lewis (chuckle). All with the uncanny wacky playmaking of a tony romo (without the chokes)
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:53 pm to dukke v
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Lets put it this way. Montana or Brady or Manning or Favre could NOT have done what Elway did for his 1st three sb' teams..........
Manning led those shitty Colts (post 2004) teams much further than Elway ever could have. He's my choice for the GOAT.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:56 pm to stevo1905
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Manning led those shitty Colts (post 2004) teams much further than Elway ever could have
I doubt this. BTW How many SB'S has Manning been too...............
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:59 pm to dukke v
quote:he has been too to
Manning been too...............
he has also had some shittay playoff games, but regular season 18 is the best i've ever seen
Posted on 4/25/13 at 5:02 pm to dukke v
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Graham was a pure winner like No other..........
so like Tim Tebow?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 5:20 pm to dukke v
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Give me a QB that took his team to FIVE sb's. Go ahead I will wait.............
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Lol peej still waiting?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 5:37 pm to Bench McElroy
This thread is confusing as frick. It is riddled with shitty posts and incoherent logic.
Are you asking who would be the top pick overall as a prospect or after their career is over? If it is a prospect, then the answer is John Elway. He rates higher than any other college prospect. This whole Super Bowl talk is nonsense. I figured this thread was prior to their nfl careers. Otherwise, we are just asking who the GOAT is.
Are you asking who would be the top pick overall as a prospect or after their career is over? If it is a prospect, then the answer is John Elway. He rates higher than any other college prospect. This whole Super Bowl talk is nonsense. I figured this thread was prior to their nfl careers. Otherwise, we are just asking who the GOAT is.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:05 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:Barry Sanders.
Otherwise, we are just asking who the GOAT is.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:15 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Are you asking who would be the top pick overall as a prospect or after their career is over?
Obviously after seeing the career results. There's no sign of marinovich, JR, mandarich, or entman
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:19 pm to molsusports
That is kind of dumb then. No offense.
We have done the GOAT thread a million times.
We have done the GOAT thread a million times.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Leon Sandcastle or bust.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:32 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
It's a little different than GOAT, though obviously with a lot of answers they are picking the players that they believe are the greatest.
In 2013, you might be better served building a team around the most capable QB, even if you think that LT or Jim Brown are the GOAT.
And, just speaking for myself, I don't believe Elway to be the greatest player ever but he's the one that I would be most comfortable building my all time franchise around because he's a QB, has a rocket arm and has played in the modern era so he can deal with a (relatively) modern playbook and modern defenses.
In 2013, you might be better served building a team around the most capable QB, even if you think that LT or Jim Brown are the GOAT.
And, just speaking for myself, I don't believe Elway to be the greatest player ever but he's the one that I would be most comfortable building my all time franchise around because he's a QB, has a rocket arm and has played in the modern era so he can deal with a (relatively) modern playbook and modern defenses.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:34 pm to dukke v
quote:why am I not suprised youre in here to pimp some guy that was dead before most of us were born
dukke v
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:57 pm to molsusports
Posted on 4/25/13 at 7:01 pm to OWLFAN86
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why am I not suprised youre in here to pimp some guy that was dead before most of us were born
John Elway is dead?????????????
Posted on 4/25/13 at 7:25 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:he's just as successful as Gruden and yet everyone wants him.
And yet teams aren't getting into bidding wars to get Billick back on the sidelines. Crazy world.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 7:45 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
All of the Elway talk reminds me of how people talk about LeBron in Cleveland.
To be clear, I think Elway and LeBron are in the top 3 in both of their professions.
To be clear, I think Elway and LeBron are in the top 3 in both of their professions.
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