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re: Billick: If I had the #1 overall pick with every player in NFL history available
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:59 pm to dukke v
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:59 pm to dukke v
In some ways it is but then on the other hand you have to imagine that putting these guys in modern strength and conditioning programs would make a difference too.
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:59 pm to Zamoro10
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John Elway...any era. If the rest of my team sucked - he could carry them...rocket arm - very athletic - would always be our weapon to keep us in games. If our system sucked - he could carry us...no matter the era.
This is why[IMO ] he is the BEST EVER................
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:00 pm to dukke v
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John Elway
No.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:02 pm to SabiDojo
Billick would have picked Elway but John stood behind his dad and cried about not wanting to play for Billick
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:05 pm to SabiDojo
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John Elway
No.
Kige
People love him for his talent more than what he really did relative to other great quarterbacks
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:08 pm to molsusports
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People love him for his talent more than what he really did relative to other great quarterbacks
Give me a QB that took his team to FIVE sb's. Go ahead I will wait.............
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:12 pm to dukke v
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Give me a QB that took his team to FIVE sb's. Go ahead I will wait.............
Brady...and he has a better record in them
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:12 pm to dukke v
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Give me a QB that took his team to FIVE sb's. Go ahead I will wait.............
Besides Elway?
Tom Brady
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:14 pm to molsusports
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People love him for his talent more than what he really did relative to other great quarterbacks
That's a brutal assessment of Elway. How many Hall of Famers did he play with during his career with Denver (Terrell Davis would have been one if he had not been injured and provided the balance to help Elway get over the hump, of course)? Yet Elway took them to five Super Bowls and won the ones his team was remotely capable of winning.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:14 pm to SPEEDY
Lol peej still waiting?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:20 pm to Buckeye06
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Brady...and he has a better record in them
That's right ELWAY had as much talent around him as Brady did for his 1st three sb's.......
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:22 pm to molsusports
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People love him for his talent more than what he really did relative to other great quarterbacks
Glad you speak for other people. You must be a sage.
What he did? You must be one of those...win SB or you're a bum guys.
How about carrying 3 sorry arse teams to the Super Bowl. No surprise his average team didn't beat his Super Bowl opponents...it was really his fault Denver's D gave up 30 points in the 2nd half to the Giants in the SB --- or that Denver's D gave up 35 points in the 2nd quarter to the Redskins after Elway had staked them to a 10-0 lead...
And not many teams in history were ever going to beat the '89 Niners.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:24 pm to dukke v
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That's right ELWAY had as much talent around him as Brady did for his 1st three sb's.......
I'm the biggest Brady hater on this board likely. I was just answering your question
Brady arguably had less talent around him in his wins than Elway did in his.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:25 pm to dukke v
Damn, Peej. I come back to find this gem.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:27 pm to Bench McElroy
Billick is correct. most people don't realize how good Graham was. He revolutionized the game in a big way. he was incredible. He is my all time greatest player and its not close.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:27 pm to Buckeye06
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Brady arguably had less talent around him in his wins than Elway did in his.
But in his losses??????? Elway did something that I have not seen a qb do with such little talent around him........ Brady had a shitload of talent in EVERY SB his teams went to than Elway EVER had.......
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:27 pm to Buckeye06
Pats D held the Greatest Show on Turf to 17 points in the Super Bowl and forced 3 turnovers which resulted in 17 points.
Pats won 20-17 - those 3 points came at the end on a long field goal by Vinatieri.
To give credit to Brady for winning over Elway taking his teams to his early Super Bowls and losing is ludicrous by comparison of their respective defensive performances and who they played in those Super Bowls.
Pats won 20-17 - those 3 points came at the end on a long field goal by Vinatieri.
To give credit to Brady for winning over Elway taking his teams to his early Super Bowls and losing is ludicrous by comparison of their respective defensive performances and who they played in those Super Bowls.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:30 pm to dukke v
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But in his losses??????? Elway did something that I have not seen a qb do with such little talent around him........ Brady had a shitload of talent in EVERY SB his teams went to than Elway EVER had.......
HAHAHAHA you just contradicted yourself in 2 statements. You agree with me it's arguable that Elway had a ton of talent in his 2 wins, then tell me Brady had more talent than Elway did on any of his teams.
I hate Brady, but he answers the question of who else has taken a team to 5 superbowls
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:33 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Billick is correct. most people don't realize how good Graham was. He revolutionized the game in a big way. he was incredible. He is my all time greatest player and its not close.
If someone asked you to describe Otto Graham based on one play or one video, which would you choose?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 4:33 pm to Walking the Earth
come again? I don't understand your question.
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