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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:37 am to redfieldk717
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he's an attorney
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:41 am to dnm3305
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The probability of this being the first time Rice has hit his wife is very very low, yet no one can prove it so you win. Good job getting the bad guy off.
Well, considering that they have been together a long time, and Ray has always been very strong, I would think that past abuse would have left some evidence.
Hospital trips? Dr. visit? Police report? Reports from a friend? Does she have NO GIRLFRIENDS that would know about past abuse?
NOTHING?
YOU GOT NOTHING BUT YOUR HIGH HORSE.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:42 am to dnm3305
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he's an attorney
I'm an engineer, and I agree with him. There should be something more than moral outrage. Some corroborating evidence.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:44 am to Sid in Lakeshore
the video is pretty cut and dry...no?
2 games for that?
2 games for that?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:53 am to TN Bhoy
Assuming there is even the slightest possibility that Ray hit her before, at the very least Goodell should not have met with them together before rendering the 2 games.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:why are you so determined to believe that actions within an abusive relationship have even the remotest bit of rational behavior or thinking?
or this was an outlier behavior and she understands it's not worth destroying her life over and they can mend their relationship on their own terms
All of your posts in this thread, staring with your critique of the author in the OP, dismiss the irrational mindset of someone in an abusive relationship. It's as if you are unable to understand anything besides a black and white, logical scenario.
Human beings make irrational choices. The author in the OP is a classic example of a woman who has been involved in an abusive relationship... yet you call it an 'outlier'... based upon what?
Just because you may be incapable of realizing that abuse victims make irrational decisions to maintain the pieces in their lives, doesn't mean it doesn't happen on a regular basis.
If all choices or decisions were logical or rational, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because people would rarely continue to subject themselves to abuse.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:47 pm to redfieldk717
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he's probably an attorney
You're correct
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:24 pm to redfieldk717
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failed drug test > knocking out your fiance?
you don't get suspended 2 games for your first failed drug test
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:25 pm to dnm3305
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You sound like the type that would sue a homeowner for shooting a home invader.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:36 pm to Wideman
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It's as if you are unable to understand anything besides a black and white, logical scenario.
it's not that i don't understand. i'm saying it's the correct way to go about looking at the situation
and in terms of HER subjective choice, she's an adult and we are guessing at her history/motives
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The author in the OP is a classic example of a woman who has been involved in an abusive relationship... yet you call it an 'outlier'... based upon what?
you're comparing apples and oranges
1. the author in the OP has been in an abusive relationship. i was a child of an abusive home making my comments. the #AbusePrivilege equals out. i still think the author in the OP is being a whiny pussy, but that's my opinion of her and not ray rice
2. i said it may be an outlier and people are making assumptions that this first into the media-driven narrative of battered wife syndrome
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Just because you may be incapable of realizing that abuse victims make irrational decisions to maintain the pieces in their lives, doesn't mean it doesn't happen on a regular basis.
sure, but that takes an in-depth psychological analysis made by an expert with the full range of histories presented
we have no history outside of this incident and i would bet most people commenting know dick about psychology, let alone BWS
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:everyone is overreacting to the story based on their assumptions.
i said it may be an outlier and people are making assumptions that this first into the media-driven narrative of battered wife syndrome
My rant:
If people actually cared this much about domestic violence, then it's ridiculous that there wasn't more outrage back in February and then again when the subsequent two-game suspension was dished out.
They see the actual video, and then most of the people overreact and begin to blame anything and everything they can while others overreact to the initial overreaction by blaming the victim and/or going on ridiculous rants about liberals, feminists and double standards.
This week has been a wonderful study in human psychology (not to mention the power and influence of social media).
And while many people see that social media yields too much power and influence in this scenario (which is obvious), the author in the OP, who seems to live with a twisted world view fueled by her time in an abusive relationship, seems to rejoice that the populace around her becomes outraged at signs of domestic violence. Something that's pretty important to her. I don't think that makes her a whiny pussy...
Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:04 pm to Wideman
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If people actually cared this much about domestic violence, then it's ridiculous that there wasn't more outrage back in February and then again when the subsequent two-game suspension was dished out.
agreed
the new outrage was b/c people saw it, and then flipped out
this is just an example of people having irrational-emotional reactions and a mob mentality developing
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This week has been a wonderful study in human psychology
absolutely
this thread is a great microcosm of that study
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the author in the OP, who seems to live with a twisted world view fueled by her time in an abusive relationship, seems to rejoice that the populace around her becomes outraged at signs of domestic violence. Something that's pretty important to her. I don't think that makes her a whiny pussy...
i disagree
she's basically pushing for a mob mentality due to her extreme biases and lack of rationality. that's terrible
i was a product of domestic/child abuse. guess what? i got the frick over it. i didn't die. i don't suffer from physical injuries that could not be corrected. if something like that happened? then i'll give you leeway, but otherwise get over yourself and realize you're living better than anyone who has ever lived on this earth, and better than probably 90% of people currently living on earth.
if i ever become super rich i'm going to fund studies on attention and how people create psychological injuries for attention. if my theory is correct, the OP is a perfect example of this.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:07 pm to redfieldk717
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redfieldk717
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the video is pretty cut and dry...no?
2 games for that?
2 games is a complete joke. I've never said any different.
Others are talking lifetime ban and interventions to rescue Janay from Ray. I don't know either of them but know them both to be adults who have been together for a while. It appears she is still with him by choice.
I need some evidence in order to pry further into their life. Pardon me for not having the hubris to make sweeping assumptions about these two seeming otherwise upstanding citizens, like some on here are doing(not necessarily you).
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