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re: Big 12(texas10) really was hurt by the moves, in behind the scenes posturing
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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A bigger reason for NUs fall was firing Solich, not conference realignment.
damn i just said this but apparently im an idiot
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:39 pm to Big Kat
I don't get the WV love. They'll be making some long hauls to Texas, what, 4 or 5 times a year? That's going to contribute to a loss or two in itself. WV won't compete for championships, imo. And TCU, will they even be able to field a team, after the great drug raid? They won't be competitive either. It's an Okie, maybe Tx league right now. And there's really no excuse for Tx to suck like they have.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:41 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Nebraska is a different case. They don't really have a home recruiting base and rely on national recruits. OU does get a lot of Texas guys, but it borders Texas and parts of N Texas are closer to OU than either A&M or UT. Most of their players are Texas/Ok kids. As long as they have a good coach and recruit well, OU should be fine.
A bigger reason for NUs fall was firing Solich, not conference realignment.
I agree thats part of this but when looking at where Nebraska was at when the Big 12 was formed and where they ended up right before they left is a good example of confrence shifts and expansion playing hell on program and its ability to recruit, which is the lifeblood of any program especially one that has to rely on pulling from other states.
Im not saying that OU is going to go down the same path but things just got a lot harder and more competitive for OU to recruit in Texas.
It used to be the Texas Blue CHips picked between Texas and OU. That will change with aTm moving to the SEC. LSU/Bama as well as aTm will compete for these recruits now.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:42 pm to Alahunter
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They'll be making some long hauls to Texas, what, 4 or 5 times a year?
i think 3 max we go to TT and UT this year along with Okie Lite
next year we go to Baylor and TCU and OU so those road trips down there are not really that bad
the only issue is if we get stuck doing it back to back weeks, but it also plays in our favor having teams travel far to play us
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That's going to contribute to a loss or two in itself. WV
we are notorious for dropping a game or two each year we shouldn't so i still think the 9 win range for us is very achievable
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:46 pm to kilo
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looking at where Nebraska was at when the Big 12 was formed and where they ended up right before they left is a good example of confrence shifts and expansion playing hell on program and its ability to recruit
no, its just a coincidence. The shite really had nothing to do with it. The Big 12 starting in 1996, 2001, 5 years later NU was in the BCSCG. 2 years later, they were 10-3 and fired their coach. They then hired a guy that want to run the WCO with ground and pound personnel.
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It used to be the Texas Blue CHips picked between Texas and OU. That will change with aTm moving to the SEC. LSU/Bama as well as aTm will compete for these recruits now.
There's plenty to go around, LSU and Bama won't get anymore than they do now, there is still a 25 scholarship limit.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:49 pm to Alahunter
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I don't get the WV love. They'll be making some long hauls to Texas, what, 4 or 5 times a year? That's going to contribute to a loss or two in itself. WV won't compete for championships, imo. And TCU, will they even be able to field a team, after the great drug raid? They won't be competitive either. It's an Okie, maybe Tx league right now. And there's really no excuse for Tx to suck like they have.
Their logic for Mizzou struggling in the SEC doesnt apply to them moving to the Big 12.
Thats the disconnect. They are too busy trying to piss down everyones legs to realize the realties of moving to the Big 12 means for their program
I have NEVER said Mizzou is a great program nor have I said we will come in and compete for titles in the SEC but there is little doubt that the move for Mizzou to the SEC has many more positives and upside then the WVU move to the Big 12.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:53 pm to kilo
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Their logic for Mizzou struggling in the SEC doesnt apply to them moving to the Big 12.
the major difference is we are a better program to begin with and we always have been. For the most part we have much better talent which proves the quality of the program for a state with only 2 million people. So the learning curve for us going into the Big 12 will not be as steep as you may believe esp when we bring in better quality talent than everyone in the Big 12 not named Texas,OU and Okie lite some years
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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we are a better program to begin with and we always have been.
Idk about that one. Just callin' it how I see it, I think both of your shitty schools suck FTR.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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the major difference is we are a better program to begin with and we always have been. For the most part we have much better talent which proves the quality of the program for a state with only 2 million people. So the learning curve for us going into the Big 12 will not be as steep as you may believe esp when we bring in better quality talent than everyone in the Big 12 not named Texas and OU
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:55 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
Posted on 3/18/12 at 4:59 pm to HT713
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Idk about that one. Just callin' it how I see it, I think both of your shitty schools suck FTR.
700+ wins 3 BCS era bowl wins and played for the nation title twice before the BCS era
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:00 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Don't worry, idc enough to argue with you about it.
After this we should all go grab some beers and burn some couches
After this we should all go grab some beers and burn some couches
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:01 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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when we bring in better quality talent than everyone in the Big 12 not named Texas,OU
Oh wow.
The reality thats about to smack you in the face is going to be outstanding to watch.
You coulndt "out talent" UCONN one year for fricks sake.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:03 pm to kilo
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You coulndt "out talent" UCONN one year for fricks sake.
once again proving you don't know shite
this man is the blame
it took dana one fricking year to turn shite around when he was supposed to be coach in waiting
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:03 pm to HT713
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After this we should all go grab some beers and burn some couches
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:08 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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once again proving you don't know shite
this man is the blame
Your "excuses" are legit but everyone elses are BS.
This is very typical of the WVU fanbase.
"Our bad years dont count....because I said so."
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:10 pm to kilo
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"Our bad years dont count....because I said so."
when did i ever say they didn't count wtf are you talking about
we had way more talent the uconn that year but or moron coach blew the game if all you can do is point at the only time we ever lost to them then you are reaching
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Is the Big 12 a stronger conference than the Big East?
Answer that question.
Answer that question.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:16 pm to kilo
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Is the Big 12 a stronger conference than the Big East?
at the top with out a doubt but the middle to bottom tier programs where about the same not much of a diffence b/w KU and Uconn or Pitt and Iowa State
but this nonesne of you thinking the talent on 7 win mizzou teams would win 4 or 5 BE titles straight out right is fricking insane
Posted on 3/18/12 at 5:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
I apologize for calling you a dumbass. You seem like a good guy and I generally agree with you.
The only point I'm trying to make in this thread is that Oklahoma will be fine, no matter who's in their conference.
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