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Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:20 pm to Chad504boy
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Pippen is consistently better with his FG%. Team player. More steals, More assists, Defense isn't comparable, Championships not comparable. Nothing is comparable except if you give Melo 25 shots, he'll get you 30 points sometimes.
This.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:21 pm to WDE24
Pippen by far,and i flat hated the Bulls. a great defender, which says a lot about his style of play.
Melo-all style
Pippen - more substance.
Melo-all style
Pippen - more substance.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:21 pm to Chad504boy
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MJ would have told melo what his girlfriend tastes like by day 3.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:22 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Pippen is one of the best defenders to ever play basketball. It was not just "above average". If he had a team to himself that needed him to score, his stats would be outrageous. He suffers in hindsight opinions due to his stats suffering from playing on great teams.
Kige.
Former coaches from 90s era basketball still rave about his exceptional length and how disruptive he was to opposing offenses.
And its been touched on but not harped on so I'll mention it again - SP was a more efficient scorer than CA. The only ways CA is better than SP was is in volume scoring and probably 3 pt fg%. SP was superior when it comes to help defense, steals, blocks, assists, field goal percentage, and rebounds.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:24 pm to dukke v
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I will put it this way...Put Melo on MJs Bulls they do NOT win 6 titles......
I wouldn't go that far. I will say if I had an expansion team and I get one stud to put a bunch of scrubs out there with, I'd take Melo over Pippen. Pippen wins the vs matchup because he is better over all, but Melo makes it damn close. Melo can win games by himself, something Pippen could not do.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:25 pm to molsusports
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SP was a more efficient scorer than CA
No he wasn't.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:26 pm to ZTiger87
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No he wasn't.
yes he was.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:27 pm to ZTiger87
Efficient scoring isn't even a fair comparison in this. Melo has had to carry most of the teams he has been on, while Pippen was never counted on for that.
ETA: except for that season and a half Jordan sat out. And the Bulls lost both those years and Scotty was a huge bitch about Kukoc getting that last shot over him.
ETA: except for that season and a half Jordan sat out. And the Bulls lost both those years and Scotty was a huge bitch about Kukoc getting that last shot over him.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:28 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:By itself it isn't, but it helps counterbalance the scoring average stat (which also isn't fair by itself) that weighs in Melo's favor.
Efficient scoring isn't even a fair comparison in this.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:29 pm to Chad504boy
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MJ would have told melo what his girlfriend tastes like by day 3.
lol
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:30 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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something Pippen could not do
He never had to. It wasn't his style of play, Even when MJ quit the 1st time the Bulls were still better than any team MELO has been on.....
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:30 pm to WDE24
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By itself it isn't, but it helps counterbalance the scoring average stat (which also isn't fair by itself) that weighs in Melo's favor.
Because Pippen COULDN'T do that. No one asked Pippen to carry the load because he COULDN'T. I am on Pippen's side on this, but Melo has some things on him that make it very close.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:32 pm to dukke v
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He never had to. It wasn't his style of play, Even when MJ quit the 1st time the Bulls were still better than any team MELO has been on.....
I think New York would be better this year if they were healthy then when the Bulls had only Scotty. Take Melo off that team with the injuries they have had and they are complete shite.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:34 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:The one year he really had a chance in his prime he did it.
Because Pippen COULDN'T do that. No one asked Pippen to carry the load because he COULDN'T.
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That year, he earned All-Star Game MVP honors and led the Bulls in scoring, assists, and blocks, and was second in the NBA in steals per game, averaging 22.0 points, 8.7 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.9 steals, and 0.8 blocks per game, while shooting 49.1% from the field and a career-best 32% from the 3-point line. For his efforts, he earned the first of three straight All-NBA First Team selections, and he finished third in MVP voting. The Bulls finished the season with 55 wins, only two fewer than the year before.
quote:I think it is somewhat close, but clear enough to definitively call this one for SP.
but Melo has some things on him that make it very close.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:34 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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ETA: except for that season and a half Jordan sat out
You mean that season were Scottie had 22 ppg (on 49% shooting), 8.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, and 2.9 spg en route to a 55-27 record and a very close 2nd round loss in 7 games to a New York Knicks team that ended up repping the East in the Finals and losing in 7 games to the eventual NBA champs? That season?
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Palm Beach Tiger
Way to be the only other moron on this thread.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:37 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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I think New York would be better this year if they were healthy then when the Bulls had only Scotty.
Dude wtf are you smoking? Where is this argument coming from and what has Melo done to deserve such benefit of the doubt? The East is a 1 team league this year and no team other than Miami could have held up the jockstrap of the top 4 in the East during the Pippen/Jordan years. New York wouldn't have even gotten out of the 1st round in the West as it is now.
Edit: Not only do 95% of TD.com think this is one of the dumbest threads that actually had people arguing in it, the rest of the world does too.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:39 pm to ShamelessPel
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You mean that season were Scottie had 22 ppg (on 49% shooting), 8.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, and 2.9 spg en route to a 55-27 record and a very close 2nd round loss in 7 games to a New York Knicks team that ended up repping the East in the Finals and losing in 7 games to the eventual NBA champs? That season?
mmmmmmmmmmmmm this post tastes niiiiiiceee...
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:39 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Melo has had to carry most of the teams he has been on, while Pippen was never counted on for that.
ETA: except for that season and a half Jordan sat out. And the Bulls lost both those years
So you want to defend Melo by saying Pippen couldn't carry the Bulls to a championship?
That's a nasty double standard even if you looked at team accomplishments as individual accomplishments. You are aware of Carmelo's post season issues?
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