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Better career? Pujols vs Miggy

Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:02 am
Posted by TigerTig
Spring, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:02 am
If Pujols continues to put up numbers in the future that he has so far in his career, will these 2 players be in the same ballpark? A buddy of mine thinks that I'm crazy that I confidently said Pujols will have a greater career and go down as an all time great. He thinks that he isnt/wont be any greater than Miggy when they're all said and done.


Thoughts?
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:05 am to
Miggy may end up with 4000 hits.....
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18762 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:05 am to
Pujols is already down as an all time great...Pujols' decline will be steep in about two years.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:05 am to
Without even looking at stats..

Pujols career seems superior than Miggy.

Miggy was good in Florida, but he's really come on it seems these past 2 seasons.

And now I checked the stats.. and wow Miggy was better in Florida than I assumed.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 9:08 am
Posted by bddwolfpack
NYC
Member since Sep 2010
9407 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:06 am to
Pujols is the answer right now.

But Cabrera is significantly younger, and Pujols's production/body has steadily been breaking down the past five years.

Cabrera will have had the better career when we look back upon it in 20 years.
Posted by TigerTig
Spring, TX
Member since Oct 2008
626 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:07 am to
Yeah by no means am I taking away from how great of a player Cabrera is
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:08 am to
You're right he actually has a legit shot at 3500+ hits.

I retract my original statement.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:08 am to
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But Cabrera is significantly younger,


3 years isn't THAT significant.

Anyways, Pujols is better than Miggy in every regard and will finish that way.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:10 am to
quote:

And now I checked the stats.. and wow Miggy was better in Florida than I assumed.


Miggy has been mad underrated for a long time. He was so fricking good with the Marlins. I could not believe they traded him for so little.

Why does everyone think Pujols will steeply decline in the near future?
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8055 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Miggy was good in Florida, but he's really come on it seems these past 2 seasons.

And now I checked the stats.. and wow Miggy was better in Florida than I assumed


yeah, dude has had a helluva career so far. Hell for the Tigers he has hit 30HR + and 100+ every year for them and only one of those years he hit under .300.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:11 am to
Yeah, but he's Dominican.. We can't possibly know his true age..

I kid!
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:14 am to
Actually wouldn't surprise me if he was older than listed age.


But same goes for Miggy too.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:15 am to
Cabrera's 10 years is averaging to 193 hits, 34 HRs, and 120 RBI's at a .318 AVG

Pujols' 12 years is averaging to 196 hits, 41 HR's, and 125 RBI's at a .325 AVG

Pretty impressive by both.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Pujols's production/body has steadily been breaking down the past five years.






Pujols wont back to back MVP's in 08-09

He only started declining in the '11 and '12 seasons
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
107739 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:21 am to
He is going to have 2000 by the time he is 30
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:22 am to
Pujols first 10 seasons>>>>>>>>>>>>Miggy's first 10 seasons
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33929 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:28 am to
Pujols easily. Miggy is great but he's never been the clear-cut best player in the league. Pujols was way more dominant in his prime, was a much better all-around player, and is considered by a lot of people to be the greatest RH hitter to ever live. Cabrera is more in the Frank Robinson category except Robinson was a way better baserunner and defender than Cabrera can ever dream to be.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28257 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Miggy may end up with 4000 hits.....


That'll be tough. He's at 1800 now and averages ~190 a season. Even if you give him 200H a season he's got to keep that pace for 11 years. He's flirted with 200 a few times but only hit the mark once, this year.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28257 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Why does everyone think Pujols will steeply decline in the near future?


He's been on a steady slope downward the last few years. Granted it was impossible to maintain his 06-09 form for much longer but he's still technically 'declining'. In the last 3 or so seasons he has gone from a .333/.440/40/120 guy to a .300/.360/35/110 hitter. His K's are up and BB's are down.

He's still a great player, he's just 'in decline' relative to his prime 3/4 seasons.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 9:57 am to
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