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re: Bet Roy Jones to win vs Mike Tyson

Posted on 11/10/20 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 3:06 pm to
Who would want to bet this exhibition?

And are or are they not wearing head-gear, there's been conflicting reports.

And Tyson on Rogan says he can't function as a human being these days without smoking weed all day.

He also said the first day he trained for this fight, he was in bed for a week.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63000 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 3:20 pm to
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I think it comes down to who can take a punch


Then Jones isn't gonna win
Posted by JohnnyTour11
Member since Sep 2011
1003 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 3:22 pm to
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And Tyson on Rogan says he can't function as a human being these days without smoking weed all day.


This just isn’t true. He said he stopped when he started training.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 3:32 pm to
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People who really know their boxing never have mike at the top or really close to it.


But many put his early career vs any of top fighters.

Mike as a youngin was mean and hit fricking hard. I've talked to the local boxing guy who is respected in the field, and he said Early Mike, before Givens, the fame, would beat anyone up.

He was that mean and hungry, but he didnt have the career many thought he would. But his head was fricked over by givens females, trainer, and others in the sport. He wasn't very bright to begin with, they mind fricked him bad.

And i was never a Tyson fan, i liked holyfield
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 3:33 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36188 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:10 pm to
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I think it comes down to who can take a punch better in their 50s
I’m gonna go with the guy who’s taken punches his entire life. I’ll take Jones +150 all day.
Posted by nobigdeal69
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2009
2279 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:20 pm to
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Yes, there are more degenerate bets made. Never said it was the most degenerate thing to gamble on.


Do you know what grappling is? ya, me either, but I've bet on it.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66905 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:26 pm to
this reminds me of McGregor/Mayweather where for whatever reason a bunch of dumb money came in on connor. I even watched the pay per view at a small gathering and was shocked to find how many people (even on this board) thought mcgregor would beat arguably the best boxer ever
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28014 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:30 pm to
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I’ve heard Paul is a legit athlete, but I can’t believe anywhere to the level of Nate Robinson. Can Jake Paul dunk? Nate Robinson was a NBA dunk contest winner, yes size/reach matters, but not when there is this much of an athletic difference. Someone that can reach the level of NFL or NBA is a different animal.
Height and reach doesn’t matter as much when it’s someone like Mike Tyson who likes to fight in the inside and has insane power... but Nate Robinson is just tiny.

He’s not going to be a skilled enough boxer to overcome a reach advantage and utilize an athletic advantage. And this is boxing... it doesn’t matter if he can dunk.

Raw athleticism is more important in MMA than boxing.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66905 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:33 pm to
Also Roy Jones Jr did a track with mike jones where he kinda goes off
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37518 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 5:07 pm to
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But many put his early career vs any of top fighters



This

Muhammad Ali was asked about the best of the modern era on Arsensio Hall (1989 ish) and named Tyson.

His superiority relied upon his conditioning, his punching power, his speed, athleticism, and rage. His reliance on speed would have never allowed him to remain elite in his 30s especially because he always fought much taller men. The fall from greatness hit harder than it should have when his training and management changed but his peak was truly awesome.

Roy Jones was a less fundamentally sound boxer than Tyson but was a great puncher and really was more respected by casual fans than knowledgeable boxing fans.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13564 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:26 pm to
Good post. Very few people will actually say Mike is the greatest ever because he wasn't. What he was was the best in a particular set of years. From 19-21 no one was beating Tyson as a heavyweight. He was so hungry and was actually learning well until King and the leaches got involved. At that point fame took over and he didn't really work to improve his craft. But in those early years he hit too hard, too fast and had a really tight, strong guard mixed with outstanding head and shoulder movement. He was really something special. And mean. He was living the dream getting paid to beat people up.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33474 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:50 pm to
Mike is going to knock Roy’s dick in the dirt by the second round
Posted by MelGibsonPatriotGif
America
Member since Nov 2020
780 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:04 pm to
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you have to be quite the degenerate to put money on this.


Guilty as charged
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:43 pm to
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you have to be quite the degenerate to put money on this.


This isnt degenerate at all. Actually very normal bet. Hell ive bet on much worse... actual wwe predetermined match, bangladesh soccer, mid week day horse races i have no clue who is in it.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:02 pm to
Jones is a boxing legend that stayed in boxing way, way to long tarnishing his legacy. I thought the guy was the best boxer-puncher I ever saw with his incredible speed and all. Then along comes Tarver and his career starts going downhill. But something about the Tarver fight just makes me believe he (Jones) threw it, had money on it or some shite. Jones had been beating Antonio Tarver like fighters his whole career, now all of a sudden he's getting hit easily by Tarver. Lol
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 8:03 pm
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:07 pm to
Tyson was over rated.

He was great but when he matched up against the generational talents of the era he fell short.

Holyfield and Lewis were much better
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7373 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:19 pm to
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Nate Robinson will murk him, he is a lot smaller but is a world class elite athlete.

Yeah I had no idea he was fighting until now but it looks like he's taking it very seriously. He started at corner for UW before he went football full time so he's not afraid of contact.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5378 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:40 am to
Ever hear of Denis Lebedev?

He knocked out Roy Jones.

Good luck thinking a focused Mike Tyson can't.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5378 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:46 am to
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this reminds me of McGregor/Mayweather where for whatever reason a bunch of dumb money came in on connor. I even watched the pay per view at a small gathering and was shocked to find how many people (even on this board) thought mcgregor would beat arguably the best boxer ever


Max Kellerman said it best, "McGregor has less than a 0% chance of winning against Mayweather."

If this fIght is legit...same for Roy. Roy should not be in the ring with me...let alone Mike Tyson.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:00 am to
Roy was so bad at the end of his career. If I'm betting it will be on Tyson, but probably will pass.
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