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re: Best NBA player who was never the best player on an NBA team

Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:28 am to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:28 am to
quote:

was considered the best European player ever

Over Drazen?

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Pippin

This is also triggering the F outta me.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:38 am to
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Props to Malone though.


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He impregnated a 13 year old child


Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:40 am to
Bobby Dandridge
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
TrampaBay
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:51 am to
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Pippen was an incredible defensive player (as was MJ) and I think they held Kukoc scoreless in his first scrimmage to welcome him the the Bulls.


IIRC, they even made Daly let them guard Kucok in the Olympics too.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:27 pm to
Manu F'n Ginobili
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:32 pm to
Could easily throw Jamal Crawford into this conversation
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Pippen was an incredible defensive player (as was MJ) and I think they held Kukoc scoreless in his first scrimmage to welcome him the the Bulls.


IIRC, they even made Daly let them guard Kucok in the Olympics too.


Yea the stores may be getting crossed up (although maybe it happened with the bulls too) but Pippen shut his A down in the olympics

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"I wanted the whole world to see us go face to face," Pippen said. "I would have ordered [Krause] a big-screen TV."

"I was anxious before the game," Pippen said. "I wanted to shut him down and embarrass him. I can't put Krause out on the court. I shook [Kukoc's] hand before and after the game. There's no bad blood between us."

No? So what did Pippen prove?

"Now I guess [the Bulls] see he's not ready for NBA competition."


LINK

As to the OP question, you can argue most of those you listed were the best player on the team. My immediate thought was "who was the 2nd best player on the late 90s early 00s kings teams'. Mike Bibby

I don't know of a time where he was clearly the best player anywhere.

This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:40 pm to
Iverson
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:58 pm to
Probably James Worthy.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:00 pm to
Jerry was the best player on those later Lakers teams, and he was regarded as such. Hell, he won the first Finals MVP in 1969 even though his team lost.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:03 pm to
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klay



Has to be this. I thought Worthy but he was the best player on the 1992 Lakers after Magic retired.

Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:04 pm to
Manu
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:26 pm to
Kevin Durant

Beta Bitch
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:29 pm to
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Iverson


lol what?
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:40 pm to
Karl Malone.

I'll give Scotty one year, over 'Sheed in Portland. Its a coin flip, to be fair, but veteran leadership.

West doesn't count-- in '65-66, he was *clearly* better than Elgin. He was also better than Elgin or Wilt in '69-'70, as both were limited (Elgin 54 games, Wilt 12).
Posted by Deathbat10
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:04 pm to
Manu Ginobili maybe?
Posted by OU812
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:08 pm to
Rolando Blackman
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:11 pm to
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Pippen


You don't think Pippen was the best on the Bulls when MJ was on sabbatical?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:14 pm to
Charles Oakley......
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:17 pm to
Do you consider Oakley better than McDaniel? McDaniel might be the answer or Shawn Kemp depending how you rank him and Payton.
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