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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:22 am to
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:22 am to
He was also a legend off the track for the amount of poon he tagged.

Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:24 am to
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If I had to pick a driver to drive a race for me where my life and my wife's life and my children's lives were riding on the outcome, it would be David Pearson.


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InkStainedWretch

You know what's up
Posted by ChestRockwell
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:11 am to
Everham went out on his own to start Dodge. The sky was the limit for those guys. Stewart was really good as well. Gordon would've won about 2-3 more without the playoff format. He was winning races with the young guys, Latarte and Gustafsonnas crew chiefs. I quit watching when he retired, when Nasacar started with the competition caution nonsense. Its giving out participation trophies. Dale Sr would've laughed at that. No more if any strategy is involved. It had fans on the edge taking 2 tires, a quick squirt of fuel, all under green. Product totally sucks because they've attempted to level the playing field with crappy drivers who have no business out there.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:28 am to
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Jeff Gordon
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:34 am to
It's really hard to compare across eras. Part of me thinks it's gotta be Pearson or one of the old heads because those cars were harder to drive.

I agree with most of the thread that I'd take Gordon over Jimmie or anyone since, and I was no Gordon fan.

The playoff really complicates everything. You can't just count titles anymore to make your list. Does anybody really put Joey Logano in the same category as Tony Stewart? Years from now will people be saying he's clearly better than Kyle Busch or Kevin Harvick? I doubt it. At least I hope not.

With this new POS car, and all of NASCAR's BS, even win totals are going to paint a weird picture. Larson won 10 races the last year in the old car. Nobody has won more than 6 since then. Can't pass, GWC finishes, etc. make so many results just feel random and unearned.
Posted by ChestRockwell
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:56 am to
Don't forget the Car of Tomorrow disaster. Any old timers remember that lame strip or metal the teams had to put across the roofs at restrictemor plate tracks? After the 2000 Daytona 500? Earnhardt simply laughed at that concept. Went from running 200 mph, to 180? Total snooze fest. Fans hated it
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
8176 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:57 am to
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Mark Martin

My favorite driver since the early 80's

A good argument could be made for Tony Stewart being one of the best also. That guy can get into anything with a steering wheel and be highly competitive.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by crash1211
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:14 am to
I read somewhere a while back that if Jeff Gordon had been racing in an era without the NASCAR playoffs, he would likely have won seven championships.

Besides Jeff my pick would also be Darrell Waltrip, Bobby Allison, Jr. Johnson

I hated the stupid playoffs. The Winston points system rewarded consistency for the whole year. Changing that and taking away racing to the yellow started my slide of apathy for the sport. I now couldn't tell you who is even a top racer, and don't get me started on the CART/Indy car split ruined a once great series.

This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
1911 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:22 am to
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Bill Elliott


I don’t think number wise he’s one of the top guys, but man, in his day he was damn good. Could wheel anything and was personally recommended by Jeff Gordon to Ray when he was starting up the dodge factory cars.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
875 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:45 am to
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I now couldn't tell you who is even a top racer, and don't get me started on the CART/Indy car split ruined a once great series.


Newsflash: INDYCAR is back . If you liked CART then, you’ll love INDYCAR now. Better racing too
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
974 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:51 am to
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I read somewhere a while back that if Jeff Gordon had been racing in an era without the NASCAR playoffs, he would likely have won seven championships.

This has been verified.

There is a website that uses the old points system
for every year since the playoff system was implemented and Gordon would have won 7 under the old system. Harvick would have won 4. Jimmie only 3.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:26 pm to
Like I said, I only gauge modern era, not Grand National era

Basically from Winston Cup to today

That is why my rankings are how they are

If you add the Grand National Wild West rules be damned era, You get Petty, then Pearson
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:32 pm to
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Dale is too low
I bumped up Petty and Yarbrough because of the legendary status, otherwise his win total puts him at 4th

I am not going to rank him higher for dying
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4744 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:35 pm to
Tony Stewart
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:09 pm to
Stewart
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:30 pm to
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The Winston points system rewarded consistency for the whole year.


But that's why so many people didn't like it. You could have guys like Terry Labonte win only two races in 1996 and win the cup. Don't get me wrong -- I was a huge fan of Terry, but he was a gentleman, and most fans loved rooting for more aggressive drivers like Dale.
Posted by orangutan9
Member since Apr 2023
5 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:20 am to
Dick Trickle
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:24 am to
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Ricky Bobby


Best sprinter in NASCAR history
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39857 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:43 am to
The answer is David Pearson:

Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30467 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:44 am to
Carson Hocevar
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