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re: Best baseball player not in the Hall of Fame
Posted on 4/18/19 at 6:46 pm to BobLeeDagger
Posted on 4/18/19 at 6:46 pm to BobLeeDagger
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On talent alone and disregarding stats, you have to have Will Clark somewhere on that shortlist.
Nah! He wasn't very popular among his peers and among sportswriters. He deserves his non HOF status.
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 6:48 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Pete Rose
I agree, but baseball has always been pretty clear that you cannot bet on baseball and that if you bet on baseball you are permanently banned. Baseball players are reminded about it from Rookie Leagues on up at every level. Baseball clubhouses in fact have a sign reminding baseball players about it. Pete Rose from the time he first set foot on a professional baseball clubhouse saw it and knew about it.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 6:54 pm to NachoReb
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Not necessarily the best but Dale Murphy. If he played for any major market team he’d already be in the HOF
I love Murph but that's doubtful - see Don Mattingly. Both had amazing MVP-calibre primes and were popular in and out of the clubhouse but they just didn't sustain great play for a long enough time period.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:03 pm to joeleblanc
Rose and Murphy
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:45 pm to LoneStarRanger
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Shoeless Joe
As far as stats go he benefited from being thrown out right about when his decline started so his per year numbers probably look better than they would if he had played out his career, kind of like if Pujols had quit 5 years ago
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:53 pm to MidnightVibe
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:53 pm to West Palm Tiger561
I was always a huge Dave Parker fan growing up. He has stellar numbers and all the big accomplishments (rings, all star games, MVPs, batting titles and gold gloves). But he had a drug problem that people hold against him. He'll probably be in soon on vets exception. But guy was a monster in dead ball era. Plus he knocked the cover off a ball once..
Posted on 4/18/19 at 8:17 pm to West Palm Tiger561
How isn’t this a unanimous Pete Rose thread 
Posted on 4/18/19 at 8:24 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Pete Rose
Posted on 4/18/19 at 8:25 pm to West Palm Tiger561
You can't ask the question, then exclude players who aren't in. Bonds is a top 5 player of all time.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:25 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Mike Trout.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:32 pm to West Palm Tiger561
banned? Joe Jackson & Pete Rose
Other than that..Fred McGriff comes to mind..Don Mattingly
Other than that..Fred McGriff comes to mind..Don Mattingly
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:04 am to West Palm Tiger561
Rusty Kuntz
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:18 am to Drank
Cooperstown Cred: Keith Hernandez
Career: .296 BA, .384 OBP, 162 HR, 1,071 RBI, 2,182 Hits
Career: 128 OPS+, 60.4 WAR (Wins Above Replacement)
11-time Gold Glove Award Winner (most ever for first basemen)
1979 N.L. co-MVP with Willie Stargell
3 top 10’s in MVP voting from 1984-86
5-time All-Star
Member of 1982 and 1986 World Championship teams (Cardinals & Mets)
Career: .296 BA, .384 OBP, 162 HR, 1,071 RBI, 2,182 Hits
Career: 128 OPS+, 60.4 WAR (Wins Above Replacement)
11-time Gold Glove Award Winner (most ever for first basemen)
1979 N.L. co-MVP with Willie Stargell
3 top 10’s in MVP voting from 1984-86
5-time All-Star
Member of 1982 and 1986 World Championship teams (Cardinals & Mets)
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:19 am to West Palm Tiger561
Lance Berkman
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:10 am to Switzerland
Buck O'Neil-probably the only topic Keith Olberman and I agree on.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 5:49 am to West Palm Tiger561
Mike Trout
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:16 am to Switzerland
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Lance Berkman
Carlos Beltran is the best switch hitter not in hall albeit not eligible yet
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:55 am to Rabbs and QStick
Stupid thread
Manny Ramirez Mark McGwire Sammy Sosa Curt Schilling and Pete Rose were far superior baseball players than Juan Gonzalez
Manny Ramirez Mark McGwire Sammy Sosa Curt Schilling and Pete Rose were far superior baseball players than Juan Gonzalez
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:46 am to West Palm Tiger561
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Best baseball player not in the Hall of Fame
Obviously Charlie Hustle and Bonds, no effing doubt
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