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re: Best athletes money can buy (high school)

Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:41 am to
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:41 am to
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it about developing homegrown kids or buying talent from all around the state or even neighboring states?


Homegrown? Huh? Why does it bother you that a kid gets developed at one school instead of another?
Public schools suck for the most part, and many times so does the coaching.
Let's say you live in Lafayette and your kid is about to go to Northside. You get a call that he's accepted to LCA and will get better coaching and MUCH better schooling and Christian learning.
You would say no? Why? Don't you want the best for your kid?
So what if their team is better? Who f'ing cares
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 4:04 am to
Doesn't bother me because public schools have full scholarships for every student. Seems like an unfair advantage. Private schools have to attract students via better environment, better education and better coaching. They have large hurdles publics don't have to worry about.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:06 am to
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You get a call that he's accepted to LCA and will get better coaching and MUCH better schooling and Christian learning.


First, LCA will accept anyone who is a good athlete so getting accepted there isn’t exactly hard.

Also LCA isn’t exactly known for their academics.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 6:07 am
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:07 am to
everywhere you turn these days people are bitching about something.

Posted by saintsfan225
Member since Aug 2014
202 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:08 am to
No one goes to Catholic for free? Are you joking? I am a graduate of the school and I sure get phone calls every year asking for money so I can help with the "gap" of what the school cost to educate a student and what they actually charge. You may want to keep your head in the sand about where there money goes but I am sure it goes to cover scholarships for many athletes. I also heard about the two twins out of Ascension that are mow at Catholic on scholarships because there family is struggling and the school wants to provide them with an opportunity to succeed. They cant be struggling that much since they live in a very nice neighborhood with a father that has a great job in the area. Make no mistake about it and do not try to sugar coat it, those kids are there to play football.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30228 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:21 am to
When my daughter was in HS she played basketball at a small private school.
There was another similar school in her region and they played twice a season. close games all the time.
One year they played the fall game and win by 2-3 points.
After the Christmas break we went to their place and lost by about 35.
Over break, 3 girls from the same 7A school had transferred in from way across town because they had some special reading program. Haha!
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:47 am to
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No one goes to Catholic for free? Are you joking? I am a graduate of the school and I sure get phone calls every year asking for money so I can help with the "gap" of what the school cost to educate a student and what they actually charge.


No one goes to Catholic for free. No one at Catholic pays full tuition. The Brothers of the Sacred Heart are very clear about this and do it at every school they run including Brother Martin. They’ve been doing it this way for 200 years long before HS sports were a thing.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 7:39 am to
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No one goes to Catholic for free? Are you joking? I am a graduate of the school and I sure get phone calls every year asking for money so I can help with the "gap" of what the school cost to educate a student and what they actually charge.


No one goes to Catholic for free. No one at Catholic pays full tuition. The Brothers of the Sacred Heart are very clear about this and do it at every school they run including Brother Martin. They’ve been doing it this way for 200 years long before HS sports were a thing.

antonio is correct paying the GAP does not make it free. But saying NOBODY goes to catholic for free may be a little misleading as well. If local business man Mr X, offers to dad of player Y to pay his tuition(by cutting dad or mom or even grandma a check to pay for tuition, ipso de facto that is for free. Now, this has certainly happened and happens at some private schools and it most certainly happened with a player at catholic about 7-8 years ago(who didn't stay at catholic). But a key note here at some schools(CHS was likely one) coaches or school admins do not know this is going on. But at other schools they know dang well it is going on - proving it is another thing because the schools nor the LHSAA have the investigatory power to dig deep enough(unlike the NCAAA) heck one guy in NO even gives the guardians a 1099.. Bottom line though it has always gone on for publics as well - in many cases publics look the other way when they KNOW a kid in their attendance zone is using a fake address oh or a kid that runs a 4.4 40 claims to live with auntee to go to their school, principals have long been reluctant to turn each other in. Also once a player graduates - the LHSAA cannot begin an investigation - which is why D Guice situation at CHS was never investigated(him living with counselor was illegal, just like JC player did - difference is it appeared on LHSAA radar before that player graduated from JC). Tuition sponsors are out there and real...
Posted by NoShow
Member since Feb 2013
2339 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 7:48 am to
Do LCA and other Christian schools still get athletes in on vouchers? That was the way they did it years ago but I don’t know if that’s still going on.
Posted by saintsfan225
Member since Aug 2014
202 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 7:56 am to
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But a key note here at some schools(CHS was likely one) coaches or school admins do not know this is going on.


Huh? Funny how the principal at CHS called the principal at Dutchtown to try and get the school to sign a release so the twins could compete in varsity sports as incoming freshman instead of having to sit out the year since they did not attend a Catholic feeder school in middle school. I heard the principal from CHS went apes**t when the principal at Dutchtown refused. GTFO with administrators and coaches not knowing what is going on.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33900 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:03 am to
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Do LCA and other Christian schools still get athletes in on vouchers? That was the way they did it years ago but I don’t know if that’s still going on.

here... are the facts.. I don't see LCA on the list.... LINK
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33900 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:05 am to
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Huh? Funny how the principal at CHS called the principal at Dutchtown to try and get the school to sign a release so the twins could compete in varsity sports as incoming freshman instead of having to sit out the year since they did not attend a Catholic feeder school in middle school. I heard the principal from CHS went apes**t when the principal at Dutchtown refused. GTFO with administrators and coaches not knowing what is going on
before you GTFO on me, what I said was administrators and coaches usually do not know about tuition sponsors.... OF COURSE THEY KNOW WHAT SCHOOL system a kid is coming from dingbat. and there is nothing illegal or even unusual about a kid attending a school out of their attendance zone, nor the new school calling the old school.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 8:06 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108785 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:07 am to
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No one goes to Catholic for free? Are you joking? I am a graduate of the school and I sure get phone calls every year asking for money so I can help with the "gap" of what the school cost to educate a student and what they actually charge. You may want to keep your head in the sand about where there money goes but I am sure it goes to cover scholarships for many athletes. I also heard about the two twins out of Ascension that are mow at Catholic on scholarships because there family is struggling and the school wants to provide them with an opportunity to succeed. They cant be struggling that much since they live in a very nice neighborhood with a father that has a great job in the area. Make no mistake about it and do not try to sugar coat it, those kids are there to play football.


So much wrong shite in here
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27705 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:09 am to
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They barely even qualify as a “school”


I don’t disagree.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33900 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:13 am to
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You rounded down by about 3 on each side.

Eta: just pulled up the game on demand. 5 starters on defense, 6 on offense along with all but one of the rotational skill players.

You just assume all black kids are on scholarship? Pretty racist. Three of the kids you mentioned came from Catholic feeder middle schools. What do you think about them?

Breaking news: Catholic high recruits every student that goes to the school. No one has to go there. A student will never be denied acceptance for the sole reason of their parents not being able to afford it.
two of those black kids starting for Catholic, their parents are better educated and very likely have more money than 90% of you posting in this forum.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33900 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:17 am to
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What I don’t like about the split is that it’s created a perception that Div I teams are better than the rest of 5A without it being settled on the field every year. We all put 11 kids on a 100 yard long field.
excluding eca....

1980 through 2012 only 2 state titles for div 1 teams(in states highest classification. Shaw 87 and Rummel 2012. The split didn't all of a sudden make the div 1 teams "better".
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108785 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:21 am to
It’s just funny to me. It shows everything wrong about the public school mentality in this state

Catholic didn’t give a shite about winning sports, they cared about helping kids. If winning was most important they wouldn’t have kept Weiner for 30 years...They kept him because he was a good man

If winning was so important, they would have let DJ Augustine play, instead of telling him he was welcome to come to school but wouldn’t be allowed to play sports

Catholic high helps kids of all colors and athletic ability get an opportunity to go to a good school, instead of the public school that can’t get their shite together.

Instead of complaining about a competitive disadvantage in something as trivial as high school sports, make your damn school worth a shite to provide a good
Education. Everyone gets to go to public school for free. I promise if the school was good, the public’s would dominate the private

Look at schools like Texas and others that have good public schools across the board. The public’s dominate
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 8:22 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108785 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:23 am to
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1980 through 2012 only 2 state titles for div 1 teams(in states highest classification. Shaw 87 and Rummel 2012. The split didn't all of a sudden make the div 1 teams "better"
It kinda did

Rummel and Catholic have consistently been the two best teams in the state post split. But this is a lot to do with Westbank kids for Rummel and demise of shaw, WM falling apart, and Catholic getting Fertita
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37848 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:32 am to
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You get a call that he's accepted to LCA and will get better coaching and MUCH better schooling and Christian learning.


Lol

Is it just me or do these Christian sports powerhouses all follow the same pattern: materialize out of nowhere, suddenly have top tier talent, dominate for a decade or so, fall apart due to some internal scandal, Then go out of business entirely ... see reserve Christian, Christian life, soon to be evangel, etc
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 9:38 am
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
632 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:01 am to
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You get a call that he's accepted to LCA and will get better coaching and MUCH better schooling and Christian learning. Lol Is it just me or do these Christian sports powerhouses all follow the same pattern: materialize out of nowhere, suddenly have top tier talent, dominate for a decade or so, fall apart due to some internal scandal, Then go out of business entirely ... see reserve Christian, Christian life, soon to be evangel, etc


I have close ties to the schools you have listed (including my dad and grandfather on staff for many years), and have close personal ties to LCA. It’s a ticking time bomb for some internal scandal to come out. There is so much wrong there
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