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re: Ben Sheltons rise in Tennis is unique and elite; he is the next big American story
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:54 am to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:54 am to tiggerthetooth
Sorry, I have always believed the opposite. I think almost any kid with enough reps could get to be low-level D1, like a MAC school or something. It's athleticism and natural ability that puts them at high level college and in the pros.
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:55 am to St Augustine
I truly don’t care what one considers a sport vs something else
It was just a nod to an old TD thread that went on for days arguing what is and isn’t a sport.
It was just a nod to an old TD thread that went on for days arguing what is and isn’t a sport.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:58 am to Bunk Moreland
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Sorry, I have always believed the opposite. I think almost any kid with enough reps could get to be low-level D1, like a MAC school or something. It's athleticism and natural ability that puts them at high level college and in the pros.
How does this contradict what I've said? I think his talent+reps is what's putting him where he's at. He's clearly had both.
Pride87 seems to think the only time playing counts is when you're traveling and playing other 10 year olds in registered events.
Playing against his former pro father at the local country club doesn't count I guess. He should have been competing at the Puma cup in the French Riviera.
That makes him a REAL tennis expert.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:00 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:I mean, Tiger is very mixed
I'm not mad at all, dude, relax. I guess we'll see if they make a big deal about it. Mixed kids don't usually get press unless they're doing Kaepernick shite.
quote:ok, so maybe don’t attack me for bringing up something that’s a simple reality? I don’t want race to be a thing. I can’t stand it. But it is. Especially when it’s someone doing something in a sport that’s typically white
Yes, I did miss that.
James Blake was mixed and his race was absolutely a big part of his story line even though he didn’t want it to be.
I think Shelton is going to be truly elite, and he will be the first black American male to win a tennis grand slam in 40 years. And because of that, I think it will make the media Storm that much bigger
This thread was made to talk about me thinking he is the next big American story in tennis, and to me it’s just something that will play a part in that
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:01 am to tiggerthetooth
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Why does that even matter? He's trying to imply this kid is coming out of nowhere, which he isn't, and that he'll have a good story to tell, which he doesn't.
Shelton was ranked in the 500s a year ago. He'll be ranked in the Top 50 if he beats JJ Wolf tomorrow night. I'd say that's out of nowhere.
Also on the Tiafoe story, I think part of it is his attitude and personality that makes it easy to pull for him. Much different than Fritz who looks like he hates playing tennis at times.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:01 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:Its amazing how stupid you are coming off and yet you have absolutely no idea
How does this contradict what I've said? I think his talent+reps is what's putting him where he's at. He's clearly had both. Pride87 seems to think the only time playing counts is when you're traveling and playing other 10 year olds in registered events. Playing against his former pro father at the local country club doesn't count I guess. He should have been competing at the Puma cup in the French Riviera. That makes him a REAL tennis expert.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:07 am to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:it’s more than that
Shelton was ranked in the 500s a year ago.
7 years ago he wasn’t playing competitive tennis, and now he is posed to be top 50 in the world
But yeh, that’s totally not that unique or anything and I’m out of my element here talking tennis.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:11 am to lsupride87
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Its amazing how stupid you are coming off and yet you have absolutely no idea
No, this thread is stupid.
Naturally talented son of former pro is good at the sport his father was also good at. Tale as old as time my guy. Just admit it's not a remarkable story and move on.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:13 am to lsupride87
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ok, so maybe don’t attack me for bringing up something that’s a simple reality? I don’t want race to be a thing. I can’t stand it. But it is. Especially when it’s someone doing something in a sport that’s typically white
How have I attacked you? I haven't.
You can't say you don't want race to be a thing, and then focus on his race. Do you not get that?
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:15 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:This is so dumb
You can't say you don't want race to be a thing, and then focus on his race. Do you not get that?
So because I acknowledge something is a reality, that’s “focusing” on it? You acknowledge it just as much as I do
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:17 am to WestCoastAg
I think it’s always been about the same on the men’s side, maybe a slight improvement in recent years.
I should have said women’s gymnastics plus both men and women in track and swimming.
I should have said women’s gymnastics plus both men and women in track and swimming.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:17 am to lsupride87
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This is so dumb
So because I acknowledge something is a reality, that’s “focusing” on it? You acknowledge it just as much as I do
It's not dumb. You don't want race to be a thing? Stop talking about it.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:18 am to tiggerthetooth
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Tale as old as time my guy. Just admit it's not a remarkable story and move on.
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A Star In The Making: Ben Shelton’s Meteoric Rise Up The ATP Rankings
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At just 20 years old, Shelton is the youngest player in history to win three consecutive ATP events
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:19 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:Right. Because if it didn’t mention it on TD the media totally would stop
You don't want race to be a thing? Stop talking about it.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:21 am to lsupride87
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Right. Because if it didn’t mention it on TD the media totally would stop
Where has the media made it a thing? I don't watch much sports news. On TD, you made it a thing.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:22 am to lsupride87
Let’s just highlight his rise even more
His first year in college, he played court 4 on his team. Yes, he was the 4th player on his college team his freshman year
Then, his sophomore year he wins the entire ncaa title
Then, 1 year later top 50 in the world
Totally normal pace of improvement for tennis
His first year in college, he played court 4 on his team. Yes, he was the 4th player on his college team his freshman year
Then, his sophomore year he wins the entire ncaa title
Then, 1 year later top 50 in the world
Totally normal pace of improvement for tennis
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:23 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:You also missed Michelle Obama being pimped when tiafoe made his us open run.
Where has the media made it a thing? I don't watch much sports news. On TD, you made it a thing.
It was nauseating
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:23 am to lsupride87
Most US men in the final 16 of a major in almost 20 years
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:24 am to Keys Open Doors
quote:And two Americans that lost in the 3rd round lost to other Americans
Most US men in the final 16 of a major in almost 20 years
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:26 am to lsupride87
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You also missed Michelle Obama being pimped when tiafoe made his us open run.
It was nauseating
I couldn't care less about Michelle Obama. I asked you where the media is doing stories on Shelton's race.
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