re: Baseball HOF class of 26 announced - Carlos Beltr&#225;n and Andruw Jones

Posted by DaleGribblesMower

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:39 pm to mikeboss550

Didn’t Beltran help pioneer the Yankees electronic sign stealing system and then go to Houston to let them know how “far behind” they were relative to the rest of the league?

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:39 pm to AHM21

Posted by harry coleman beast

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:40 pm to AHM21

Druwww

Posted by 3amigosanddad

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:41 pm to Tangineck

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8 gold gloves

Epitome of fools gold!

Forgot to mention Murphy’s two MVP’s and is arguably one of the top 5 players of the 80’s.

This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 6:49 pm

Posted by Zendog

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:42 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55

over 2700 hits, close to 600 doubles, 435 HR's, 1600 rbi's, over 300 sb

Posted by mdomingue

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:04 pm to Lexis Dad

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Name one better

What metric do you want to use to determine it?

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:28 pm to InkStainedWretch

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Beltran doesn’t have enough black ink (led the league in something) or gray ink (was among the top 10 individual leaders in something) for my tastes

Beltan Amongst Swtich Hitters All Time:

WAR: 6th (70.0)
HR: 4th
Runs: 5th
Hits: 6th
RBI: 3rd
Total Bases: 4th

Easy HOF'er

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:35 pm to 3amigosanddad

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If Dale Murphy can’t, the bum Edmonds sure as shite ain’t getting in.

Edmonds has a way better career and its not even really that close. Better defense, better offensive player. More WAR in about 1.5 less season's worth of plate appearances.

Posted by AGGIES

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:51 pm to AHM21

Carlos Beltran got elected in?

I guess the trash can thing isn’t going to keep people out after all.

Altuve has got to be a virtual lock now…

Posted by Me

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:57 pm to Lester Earl

I don't know. That 2-0 MVP advantage should hold a lot of weight.

Posted by SECSolomonGrundy

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:59 pm to mdomingue

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What metric do you want to use to determine it?

What do you got?

Posted by McMillan

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 7:59 pm to 3amigosanddad

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If Dale Murphy can’t, the bum Edmonds sure as shite ain’t getting in. Jones is arguably the best center fielder ever, next to Mays, get out here with this Edmonds bullshite, frick the Redbirds, best fans in baseball my arse!

That “bum” helped kick Atlanta’s arse in 2000 and has something Jones couldn’t get in two tries, a ring.

Posted by jclem11

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:13 pm to AHM21

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Carlos Beltrán

Jerry and WestCoastAg are seething and punching air rn. lmao.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:13 pm to Me

Murphy had a great prime. The problem is, the surrounding years, he was barely a replacement-level player.

Posted by mdomingue

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Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:14 pm to SECSolomonGrundy

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What do you got?

Fielding Percentage. Andruw Jones - .9902, just .0001 behind Robin Yount

Mike Trout - .9941
Ichiro Suzuki - .9927
Christian Yellich - .9907

He was very good, but let's not get carried away.