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re: ATL Thread 8/2 | Phillies (frick) vs Braves (Strider)

Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
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Woods



Not sure he is ready for that spotlight yet.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Hey AA you grabbed the wrong Angels pitcher (Ohtani)


You're high if you thought the Angels were ever in the dealing Ohtani business.

In AA we trust.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Garrett Spain @BravesMILB
3m
For a guy who seems so good at getting value elsewhere AA sure does love overpaying for solid-but-not-elite relievers
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:51 pm to
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They’ve told us who they are at this point. We are a top 5 or at least top 5-ish team in MLB and firmly in our window, I don’t buy that it’s just AA wanting to hold prospects (from a system that’s not even that good anymore) at this point. There’s really no reason we couldn’t have gotten Thor, Drury, or Merrifield if we really had the salary room for it. Merrifield has a really affordable contract as well.


I don't think it has anything to do w/money. The Braves have plenty of that.

It is prospect capital, or the lack thereof in this case for the Braves and not wanting to completely gut the system.

The Braves will be a top-5/6 payroll team by as early as next year when they should break the $200 MIL threshold.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 5:52 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:52 pm to
Twatter is the bastion of the miserable.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:55 pm to
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and not wanting to completely gut the system.


Hate to break it to you, but the system has already been gutted.

We have 1 top 100 prospect, and he's #100.

Now, we do have some guys down the line that can break into the list like Shuster, Dodd and Schwellenbach, but guys like Shewmake, Elder and Tarnok are all currently in our top 6 and likely won't ever see significant time in Atlanta.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:58 pm to
I had hopes for Tarnok after he lit up the second half of last season but he was always a very raw project. I'm guessing by this time next season, he'll either be on the big league roster or will be out of the organization.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:07 pm to
Which goes back to my point that we don't have the prospect capital to land Thor, Drury, or any other known commodity
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:07 pm to
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Assuming we go Fried, Wright, Morton (which is what Bowman said they are leaning towards)


Going back to this, it would be a colossal mistake to pick Morton over Strider if Strider doesn't show any slowing down by season's end.

I get it, a 100mph fastball with a slider plays well out of the pen, but for the sake of the argument, lets say we're in a winner-take-all game 3 against San Diego in the wild card series, who would you want starting that game?
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Which goes back to my point that we don't have the prospect capital to land Thor, Drury, or any other known commodity



The Padres didn't give up any prospect capital for Drury.

Their farm is about on par with ours.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:12 pm to
You go your best 3 starters in the playoffs. Strider is clearly in that 3 IMO. Morton might end up just being long relief/insurance in the playoffs
Posted by auzach91
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:12 pm to
Welp. Is what it is now. Let’s go out and take these two then 4/5 from Mets and ride.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:12 pm to
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The Padres didn't give up any prospect capital for Drury. Their farm is about on par with ours.


This, and the highest ranked prospect the blue jays gave up was like 15th I think. Their system has graduated most of its big players in the majors like we have
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 6:19 pm
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:14 pm to
Whether you like the moves we made or not, we have to cut down on our whiff rate. We are dead fricking last.

We also have three pitchers who need to drastically reduce their pitch counts. Morton is a lost cause. Minter and Jansen need to find control in loaded counts. High and away on full counts is pissing me off.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:20 pm to
Saw this on another board:

quote:

We turned Sean Newcomb and a guy we got in the 19th round in 2016 for one of the best closers in the American League. 

Build the AA statue


Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:21 pm to
Obviously striking out less would be ideal, but I also don’t want to mess with the aggression in what has been one of the best offenses in baseball. Gotta walk a fine line.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:24 pm to
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for one of the best closers in the American League


Lol no
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:26 pm to
Wow. Alec Bohm looked as hopeless on that swing as any I've seen in awhile. Holy hell that slider was disgusting.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:36 pm to
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SteelerBravesDawg


The Braves should hire you for PR
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 6:41 pm to
AA saying we “don’t believe in innings limits”.

Spencer’s not going anywhere.
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