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re: ATL Thread 6/8 | Athletics (Frick) @ Braves (Anderson) | 6:20 CST | Going for 7 straight!
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:53 pm to VADawg
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:53 pm to VADawg
He can certainly fly. DOB might want to remember Jason Heyward, before he gets ahead of himself. They've got plenty of time to evaluate him before they need to worry about that.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:56 pm to Metaloctopus
Never expected Harris to start this good. Thought he would have to go back down after like 10-15 games.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:57 pm to Metaloctopus
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DOB might want to remember Jason Heyward, before he gets ahead of himself.
Agreed, though I still think Heyward was never the same guy after he got hit in the face.
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They've got plenty of time to evaluate him before they need to worry about that.
He pointed to the trend of extending the really young guys (like the Braves did with Acuna and Albies or Tampa did with Wander Franco). I guess it depends on what the team thinks Harris will be long term.
Riley is scorching hot right now too. Holy shite this lineup is fun when there are multiple guys on fire.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:57 pm to diddlydawg7
Be cautious I’d say. We started to think this about Demeritte.
As Riley hits a fricking bomb
As Riley hits a fricking bomb
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:59 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Don’t disrespect Money Mike like that
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:59 pm to Metaloctopus
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He can certainly fly. DOB might want to remember Jason Heyward, before he gets ahead of himself. They've got plenty of time to evaluate him before they need to worry about that.
Wildly different scenarios.
Heyward was brought up with the thought that he would be an offensive cornerstone for 10+ years, which never panned out.
Harris was drafted and highly-rated for his centerfield defense first and his speed on the base paths second. We know that's already above average among the MLB, with his bat the question mark.
If he and his agent are willing to sit down and sign an extension that is slightly above the AAV for other good centerfielders, I don't see the down side.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:01 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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Be cautious I’d say. We started to think this about Demeritte.
Anybody who thought the same way about career MiLBer 27 year old Travis Demeritte as they do now about 21 year old and into his 2nd full season of pro baseball Michael Harris, they are insane
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:08 pm to VADawg
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Heyward was never the same guy after he got hit in the face.
No, he wasn't.
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He pointed to the trend of extending the really young guys (like the Braves did with Acuna and Albies or Tampa did with Wander Franco). I guess it depends on what the team thinks Harris will be long term.
Riley is scorching hot right now too. Holy shite this lineup is fun when there are multiple guys on fire.
Probably still too early for Harris, but Fried and Young Thicc absolutely need to be extended this OS.
Also, Dansby won his arbitration case, Duvall lost his.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:09 pm to Broski
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Anybody who thought the same way about career MiLBer 27 year old Travis Demeritte as they do now about 21 year old and into his 2nd full season of pro baseball Michael Harris, they are insane
Yep. They aren't even in the same zip code
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:13 pm to sorantable
When Harris is in the box, his stance reminds me a little bit of Heyward.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:15 pm to Broski
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Wildly different scenarios.
Heyward was brought up with the thought that he would be an offensive cornerstone for 10+ years, which never panned out.
Harris was drafted and highly-rated for his centerfield defense first and his speed on the base paths second. We know that's already above average among the MLB, with his bat the question mark.
If he and his agent are willing to sit down and sign an extension that is slightly above the AAV for other good centerfielders, I don't see the down side.
It doesn't matter where Harris was drafted. It matters what he's become as a prospect. He has shown a very similar game to that of Heyward, and regardless of the difference in fanfare coming into the season, he is a guy that the organization is likely every bit as high on as they were on Heyward, otherwise they would not have called him up from Double A, after only spending a month and a half there.
And my point was that they could have overreacted to Heyward's early success, and paid him a huge contract that they would have regretted. But they wisely waited.
To VAdawg's point, I understand that there is a trend with signing young guys early, to try to lock them up before they realize how much they're really worth, but in the case of someone like Acuna, he was on another level. Michael Harris has been impressive, but there is enough doubt to wait.
Now, as to your last point, if we're just talking about a slightly above average contract, that's one thing, though I'm not sure that's the type of deal he and his agent would be looking for. It's very early to make any true judgement yet, but he's doing well so far.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:15 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Probably still too early for Harris, but Fried and Young Thicc absolutely need to be extended this OS.
Riley needs to get done ASAP. That price tag is going up daily.
I'm not sure Fried gets extended honestly. I hope he does, but they can't extend everyone long term and if he stays on this course, he will be set to get a massive payday in free agency. Kevin Gausman got 5/$110M this year. Fried is significantly better than two pitch Gausman. Someone will give him $25M+ per year.
Contreras has been awesome. His play this season has made giving up Langeliers in the Olson trade a lot easier. DOB and others have pretty much said that Oakland was asking for either Pache and Langeliers or Harris and Contreras. I think the Braves made the right choice there
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:16 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Holy shite Contreras is one of the best hitting Cs in the league legitimately.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:26 pm to DolphinDaddy
Stop doubting Money Mike
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:30 pm to Metaloctopus
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It matters what he's become as a prospect
That's what I said.
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He has shown a very similar game to that of Heyward
Again, Heyward wasn't signed to the extension that he got because he is playing to how similar Harris is now. Heyward was expected to be a top 10 player in the game for a long time.
No one is expecting that from Harris, the extension wouldn't be as costly on the backend as it was for Heyward when it became apparent that he wasn't going to be a superstar.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:35 pm to Broski
This lineup has been very fun to watch tonight.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:36 pm to Broski
It all just depends on what he wants. If you can get him for a similar deal as the one Ozzie took, then it’s a no doubter. I would think they’ll at least put out a feeler question to see if they are in the same ballpark and if it is worth discussing.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:37 pm to POCKET
Inject this into my veins. Ozzie needed that so badly.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:40 pm to POCKET
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If you can get him for a similar deal as the one Ozzie took, then it’s a no doubter.
I would almost be nervous to lowball someone like that. I know Ozzie agreed to it, but part of me wonders how if he regrets it and if it will ever become an issue.
If he plays like this through the end of the season, I'd consider offering him something in the ballpark of the Acuna deal and see if he has any interest.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 8:44 pm to VADawg
I’d also consider re-working the Ozzie deal to add a couple million per year if he’ll agree to only hitting right handed.
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