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re: Article Drops About Oregon St Ace Felony Molestation Conviction

Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:36 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:36 am to
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Being forced to register as a sex offender is usually game over. You're much better off doing 5 years and getting out than walking around with the sex offender label.

you are still required to register as a sex offender even if you serve time for the offense. It's not a "pick one" type of deal
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:38 am to
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i think you underestimate how common molestation cases are and way over-estimate rape rape cases

the problem is the data typically includes both (even for adult charges) so it's probably not possible to really separate the rate of either

Fair enough. I hold the opinion that a high school aged person, who repeatedly puts his hands inside a 4-6 year old family member for a period of 3 years, is not normal mentally and can not be fixed.

And no data presented has even touched on that really.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 10:39 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:39 am to
I meant do time for a different offense

Registering as a sex offender is exponentially worse than a relatively short prison sentence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:41 am to
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you are still required to register as a sex offender even if you serve time for the offense

the point is that registration is a life-ender in itself

doing time is better than registration. think about that

it's way too powerful of a tool and abused a great deal by our CJ system
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36781 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:47 am to
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As a juvenile his records are sealed, or supposed to be.




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OSU's top pitcher was 15 years old when the crime occurred in his family's home in Puyallup, Washington, according to court documents obtained last week by The Oregonian/OregonLive through a public records request. Juvenile court records in Washington, unlike in Oregon, are not automatically confidential.


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. Heimlich registered as a sex offender in Benton County after arriving at Oregon State. When he was cited in April for missing an annual update, it put the case in Oregon court records for the first time.


Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:53 am to
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But Washington considers the type of crime Heimlich committed to be so serious that the records are not confidential for juvenile offenders. And since 1997, Oregon has required people convicted of felony sex offenses elsewhere as juveniles to register as sex offenders here.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:55 am to
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But dont you agree it is absolutely necessary to garner any true hypothesis?

In fairness, didn't you do just that with your original statement?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11890 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:56 am to
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Yes he will if he has the talent

He's going to have to be damn damn good to overcome that quote from the six year old.

He's fricked if he's just good.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:58 am to
Guy is a Pedo, and i love that the losers from the State of Oregon are defending them.

Liberalism is a sick disease.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108309 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:59 am to
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In fairness, didn't you do just that with your original statement?
I gave my opinion. I never once tried to pretend it was based on a statistical analysis, like others have done.

If one wanted to garner any true hypothesis based on data, age of criminal, age of victim, and type of crime absolutely need to be broken out seperately
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27113 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:02 am to
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He will never play pro baseball. Never


agree

It's over for him

Get that degree and find a 9-5.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:02 am to
Holy shite
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:05 am to
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Guy is a Pedo, and i love that the losers from the State of Oregon are defending them.

Liberalism is a sick disease.

i imagine most people defending a baseball player from OSU are not from Portland or Eugene and are much more likely to look like this

Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:08 am to
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juvenile is different than adult prosecutions

most juvenile cases end in probation, especially a first offense. the policy around juvenile prosecutions centers around rehabilitatio


shite like this typically gets transferred over into criminal court.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36781 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:09 am to
Lol...close.

There's definitely more guns owned and more camo worn by beavers than Ducks.
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
2063 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:09 am to
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Liberalism is a sick disease.



This is what's wrong with America at the moment. Some people can't even look at an issue as deplorable as child molestation without doing so through a partisan lens.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:09 am to
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The victim's mother said she does not keep tabs on Heimlich but knows he's one of the top players in the United States. She said her daughter was young enough that "she doesn't really remember everything that happened," but nonetheless has been ostracized from family events because most members of the Heimlich family have sided with Luke.

"He got two years of counseling and classes," she said. "My daughter's life has been changed for the rest of her life."





Man, that aunt or whoever is PISSED

And rightfully so of course
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 11:10 am
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7568 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:12 am to
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most members of the Heimlich family have sided with Luke.

Disgusting
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:12 am to
well it's also a sports player, so the odds of these people being liberal goes way down b/c of that

liberals are much more likely to hate sport and accuse him of being privileged, which led to his "light" sentence
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
2063 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:17 am to
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well it's also a sports player, so the odds of these people being liberal goes way down b/c of that

liberals are much more likely to hate sport and accuse him of being privileged, which led to his "light" sentence


This.

I just spoke about this topic with a liberal coworker and they were of the opinion that "the only reason people are defending his behavior is because he is an athlete."
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