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re: Article Drops About Oregon St Ace Felony Molestation Conviction
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:49 am to lsupride87
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:49 am to lsupride87
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He will never play pro baseball. Never He was 15 when this happened.
Yes he will if he has the talent, but the strange part is how was this released? As a juvenile his records are sealed, or supposed to be.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 9:50 am
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
I was mainly addressing the sexual clumsiness idiocy 
But sexual crimes are kinda different in some cases because it can be a continuous state of mind thing instead of a crime of passion. A guy who constantly is attracted to 6 year olds is different than a guy who kills someone in a heated argument that turns violent. The pedo has a constant want to have sex with a minor whereas the killer doesn't have a constant want to just kill people. The pedo would be more like a serial killer who has a constant desire to kill.
But sexual crimes are kinda different in some cases because it can be a continuous state of mind thing instead of a crime of passion. A guy who constantly is attracted to 6 year olds is different than a guy who kills someone in a heated argument that turns violent. The pedo has a constant want to have sex with a minor whereas the killer doesn't have a constant want to just kill people. The pedo would be more like a serial killer who has a constant desire to kill.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:54 am to sms151t
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but the strange part is how was this released? As a juvenile his records are sealed, or supposed to be.
he's still a registered sex offender and apparently didn't follow the rules and that created a case in Oregon, which is in big boy court and accessible by the public
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:54 am to lsupride87
I already knew at least 50% of Oregon State fans will be clouded because they want their team to win and in their eyes, their players can do no wrong.
At 15, you know what you are doing and you damn sure know right from wrong. This dude is messed up in the head. For his sake and the sake of children around him, I hope he is rehabilitated, but this isn't something you can just gloss over as "kids being kids".
At 15, you know what you are doing and you damn sure know right from wrong. This dude is messed up in the head. For his sake and the sake of children around him, I hope he is rehabilitated, but this isn't something you can just gloss over as "kids being kids".
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:55 am to sms151t
quote:Because he is a such a dumbass he missed a court appointment in april, thus making the documents public because he is no longer a minor.
but the strange part is how was this released? As a juvenile his records are sealed, or supposed to be.
That is how stupid this guy is
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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he was punished, did his time
he was punished with probation and sex offender treatment. For a Class A felony, that's a pretty sweet deal.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:56 am to lsupride87
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He will never play pro baseball. Never
Are you familiar with Matt Bush?
He will absolutely get a chance if he's this talented
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:56 am to sms151t
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Yes he will if he has the talent, but the strange part is how was this released? As a juvenile his records are sealed, or supposed to be.
If you read the article, it explains how it leaked. Oregon's juvenile protection laws are a little different
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:57 am to lsufball19
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he was punished with probation and sex offender treatment. For a Class A felony, that's a pretty sweet deal.
juvenile is different than adult prosecutions
most juvenile cases end in probation, especially a first offense. the policy around juvenile prosecutions centers around rehabilitation
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:57 am to TH03
quote:A 15 year old, who gets in a heated moment, and kills someone can be rehabilitated and released back into the public as they mature
But sexual crimes are kinda different in some cases because it can be a continuous state of mind thing instead of a crime of passion. A guy who constantly is attracted to 6 year olds is different than a guy who kills someone in a heated argument that turns violent. The pedo has a constant want to have sex with a minor whereas the killer doesn't have a constant want to just kill people. The pedo would be more like a serial killer who has a constant desire to kill.
A 15 year old who sexually molests 4-6 year olds, can not ever be rehabilitated. That is a mental cancer that will forever be there
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:57 am to bubbz
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 3:48 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:58 am to lsupride87
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A 15 year old who sexually molests 4-6 year olds, can not ever be rehabilitated. That is a mental cancer that will forever be there
they have very advanced tests for this and i believe the expert said he was unlikely to re-offend (per a quote on page 1)
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:58 am to msutiger
quote:frick that. He needs to be locked away forever IMHO. This isnt a crime that can be rehabilitated
He served his time, he's been humiliated before and will be a sex offender for the rest of his life. Let the guy live out the rest of his life. He was an idiot 15 year old. He hasn't done anything wrong since and I'm not against giving people second chances.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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they have very advanced tests for this and i believe the expert said he was unlikely to re-offend (per a quote on page 1)
Holy frick, some weird as pacific norhtwest granola guy commenting on the internet is an expert?Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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juvenile is different than adult prosecutions
most juvenile cases end in probation, especially a first offense. the policy around juvenile prosecutions centers around rehabilitation
most juveniles do not get probation for Class A felonies. Yes, they are handled differently than adults, but that is still a very surprising deal for that type of offense. I've seen plenty of juveniles serve time, as first time offenders, for far less serious crimes. Not that they necessarily serve a long time, but they do serve, and this kid didn't serve one day in juvenile detention.
For instance, I had a juvenile client who I was representing. In his very first conviction, prior to my representation, as a juvenile, he was sentenced 6 months to serve in detention for possession with intent to sell marijuana and illegal possession of a firearm. his total sentence was 2 years and he served the remaining 1.5 years on probation.
Additionally, maybe you rememeber former UT football player Daniel Hood and his role in the molestation of a girl when he was 13 years old. He was involved but not the one who actually molested the girl (guy who did was 17 and tried as an adult and sentenced to 10 years). Hood was a ward of the state for some time, then placed into a halfway house, and then released. He was not simply sentenced to probation and therapy.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
The quote wasn't specific to his case though.
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As the expert stated, the likelihood of such a young person re-offending is very low.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:02 am to lsupride87
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Research shows that the vast majority of juveniles convicted of sex crimes do not reoffend in subsequent years.
After about three years, the likelihood of reoffending is "very small," said psychologist Michael Caldwell, who lectures at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
At five years, the recidivism rate for another sex crime hovers at 2.75 percent, according to a study that Caldwell published in 2016. That's because juvenile sex offenders tend to mature and respond well to intervention, Caldwell said.
"It's referred to as a redemption threshold, the point at which the person is no more at risk than any other individual walking around on the street," he said.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:03 am to TH03
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The quote wasn't specific to his case though.
true
but after getting the actual comment, it's worse
you can't say "these people cannot be fixed" when the macro data shows the exact opposite
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
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Holy frick, some weird as pacific norhtwest granola guy commenting on the internet is an expert?
Kind of like the random LSU fan saying he should be locked up for life
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
Never knew that. Seems like the opposite of serial killers where you see the progression from small animals to people later in life.
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