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re: Anybody else prefer the old baseball stadium aesthetic?
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:15 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:15 pm to West Palm Tiger561
100%
Cincinnati's Crosley Field is one of the most underrated/unknown beautiful stadiums.
Love the Scoreboard & Terrace in the outfield.
So unique.
Cincinnati's Crosley Field is one of the most underrated/unknown beautiful stadiums.
Love the Scoreboard & Terrace in the outfield.
So unique.
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 2:41 pm to Underwood
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Yes. I support obstructed view lines.
Exactly.
Whining about nice stadiums with views and amentities is weird. Imagine preferring old dumpy stadiums.
So many weird old people posts lately.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 3:47 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Fortunapark te enough to have been to Fenway a few times. Easily the coolest I have been to. Yep, plenty of obstructed views. Yes, the upper deck is right on top of upper sections of field box level. Yes, it is stairs up and down as you try to walk around inside the stadium. Older concession areas, etc.. You leave there wishing every park had that feel.
Been to Yankee stadium old and new,Seattle, San Fran, LA Dodgers, San Diego,Astros, Rangers, and KC. Nothing holds a candle to hte aesthetics of Fenway.
Haven't been to Chicago,Detroit, St Louis, etc...
Been to Yankee stadium old and new,Seattle, San Fran, LA Dodgers, San Diego,Astros, Rangers, and KC. Nothing holds a candle to hte aesthetics of Fenway.
Haven't been to Chicago,Detroit, St Louis, etc...
Posted on 10/1/25 at 3:58 pm to OH NO
Question… I might be ignorant but what did “1st” mean on that scoreboard after the runs, hits, errors?
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:12 pm to chalmetteowl
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what did “1st” mean on that scoreboard after the runs, hits, errors?
Score of the 1st game of a DH?
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:32 pm to West Palm Tiger561
I thought I did until I went to a game in the Rangers old stadium.
It was hotter than hell until it started raining on us. Never been so uncomfortable.
Give me the friendly confines of the Ice Box any day.
It was hotter than hell until it started raining on us. Never been so uncomfortable.
Give me the friendly confines of the Ice Box any day.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:51 pm to Harry Caray
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The train is up on "some tracks" because the ballpark was built on the site of an old Union Station. It's an homage to the past and a nod to the history of the site
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Same as above, they couldn't have adequate outfield seats if it were 340ft in left field; the previous Union Station site doesn't allow the space
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Tal's Hill (named after former Astros president) was an homage to the older parks that had similar quirks, like Crosley Field or Baker Bowl
You proved my point. They did way too much in an attempt to create this image of an old-time park, which is out of character considering how futuristic the Astrodome was. The dome absolutely shits on the Ice Box or Juice Box or whatever you wanna call it. I know our resident Astro fans will be annoyed by someone who just doesn’t like their venue.
I’m well aware of Tal Smith. He worked in Cincy for two years, and has zero connections to Philly…so not sure why you would pay homage to a stadium by building a hill in CF, then name it after a guy who has zero connection to the stadium. He worked at Crosley for a couple years, so if you want to use that as a connection…go ahead I guess. It still seems pretty random to me.
The short porch is a gimmick. Boston has a short porch and a huge wall because Lansdowne Street is literally right behind the wall. Union Station impacts the corner of Daikin Park, but the short porch extends quite a way. There’s the outdoor pavilion area beyond left field, and the St. Arnold beer area out there too. They aren’t exactly boxed in. The missed opportunity in Daikin was exposed when Petco incorporated the Western Metal Supply building without weirding out their dimensions. Fenway and Wrigley don’t even really have a concourse because of constricting streets. Pretending Houston didn’t have room because of a building is false.
Are we gonna talk about the flag pole they used to have as well? “Hey, Detroit had one for a while, let’s do the same thing.”
Houston had a great chance to come up with someone to pay homage to their own great venue, the Astrodome, and instead followed the all too familiar temple of building a new stadium and making it look older. Daikin is mid level, so is Arlington.
PNC, Busch, Petco…all done to damn near perfection. Progressive, Coors, Baltimore…earlier designs that are similar to each other, but also nailed.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:54 pm to OH NO
Crosley with the neighborhood in the background screams baseball to me. That has character and soul.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:00 pm to TexasTiger08
I am an Astros fan and I don’t necessarily disagree with you. It is still a great place to watch a game from a sight lines/comfort/amenities perspective. They went a little over the top with the gimmicks and they need help spur more development around the stadium.
I am not a fan at all of the new Rangers stadium. I think it’s the opposite, boring as hell with absolutely zero character. The old Rangers stadium was great even if it was hot as hell
I am not a fan at all of the new Rangers stadium. I think it’s the opposite, boring as hell with absolutely zero character. The old Rangers stadium was great even if it was hot as hell
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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The old Rangers stadium was great even if it was hot as hell
Agreed. It’s a shame they didn’t have the foresight when they built it. Old Arlington Stadium was hot as hell too.
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It is still a great place to watch a game from a sight lines/comfort/amenities perspective.
It’s very comfortable, and I’m not saying the place sucks. But there’s really only 6 “old” parks remaining. Of those, Wrigley, Fenway, and maybe Dodger are classics.
I think consensus says that PNC, Petco, Oracle, Busch, and Camden Yards were woven into their areas about as good as you can get. Kauffman gets tons of love because of its unique design. I’ve never been to Atlanta, but I know the Battery is hyped up. I prefer parks actually in the city, but that’s just me.
TMobile, Coors, and Progressive are up there…at least for me. The latter two are almost copies of Camden Yards from my experience.
Personally, I would have Houston lumped in with Cincy, maybe Citi Field and Citizens Bank. They’re all good places to catch a game, but they’re middle third for me.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:01 pm to TexasTiger08
That’s fair. I think it’s also difficult to pull off the same level of charm in a closed stadium. T Mobile in Seattle is the only park I’d say has that feel that also can be closed in
Miller Park basically seemed like Minute Maid with less gimmicks and more traditional outfield dimensions when I was there. It was actually shocking how similar the concourses felt, like someone at Populous or whoever just hit copy paste on that part of the design
Miller Park basically seemed like Minute Maid with less gimmicks and more traditional outfield dimensions when I was there. It was actually shocking how similar the concourses felt, like someone at Populous or whoever just hit copy paste on that part of the design
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:42 pm to TexasTiger08
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Houston had a great chance to come up with someone to pay homage to their own great venue, the Astrodome
When they built Enron Field nobody considered the Astrodome great
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:57 pm to chalmetteowl
I grew up in The Dome, The Dome by the early 90s was pretty crappy but it was our sports teams homes, it will always have a special place in my heart (except for the piss troughs).
I get some of the knocks on Daikin, my biggest issue with it is how congested the main concourse has become over time and how the area in center field feels like a mall food court.
I get some of the knocks on Daikin, my biggest issue with it is how congested the main concourse has become over time and how the area in center field feels like a mall food court.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:08 pm to chalmetteowl
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When they built Enron Field nobody considered the Astrodome great
It takes someone to think outside the box, a true visionary.
That’s essentially what someone did when they created Camden. Someone had the balls to get away from cookie cutter territory. Same with Kauffman.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:09 pm to TexasTiger08
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That’s essentially what someone did when they created Camden. Someone had the balls to get away from cookie cutter territory. Same with Kauffman.
It did help that they weren’t hosting baseball AND football
Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:09 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Miller Park basically seemed like Minute Maid with less gimmicks and more traditional outfield dimensions when I was there. It was actually shocking how similar the concourses felt, like someone at Populous or whoever just hit copy paste on that part of the design
I agree with that. I know Miller Park is in the same location as County Stadium, but that detracts for me as well. It seems kind of isolated.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:12 pm to chalmetteowl
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It did help that they weren’t hosting baseball AND football
Well, yeah. But someone still had to design the damn thing, and the retro-classic concept was perfect. The location, utilizing the B&O Warehouse. The waterfalls at The K. After all, we have had new stadiums that have missed the mark a bit…architecture in general. Some people take some risks, go outside the box, and build something that is remembered.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:17 pm to TexasTiger08
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pay homage to their own great venue, the Astrodome
How does one pay homage to a circular cookie-cutter dome that was functionally identical to the 15 others that were built in the decade after it?
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:30 pm to Indefatigable
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How does one pay homage to a circular cookie-cutter dome that was functionally identical to the 15 others that were built in the decade after it?
Make a circular stadium that isn’t a cookie cutter? Aren’t the A’s planning that for Vegas?
I always liked these flowers for some reason:
And this…which I guess has come back as far as graphics go.
They also went all in with the train station theme, which is pretty damn far from Astros/astronauts.
And the seats…
I just think ballpark design in general is lazy these days. Check out all of these new minor league parks. Berm? Check. Retro look? Check. Some exclusive seating right at field level? Check. Party deck? Check. Even the concessions…take a hot dog, throw random shite on it, profit?
Bill Veeck would shite on this stuff.
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:45 pm to Strannix
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Liked Old Detroit
That one of the things I miss about the old Ballpark in Arlington. They took features from other ballparks like Detroit’s Tiger Stadium and incorporated them into their design.
The old home run porch in right field paid homage to Detroit’s old stadium.
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