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re: Anthony Davis gives Pels more squads to trade him to

Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:21 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:21 am to
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Brown + their assortment of 1sts > LAL's offer, as is
Aaaaare you sure about that?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:22 am to
Dude you're stuck in this mindset that "picks" is more valuable than current production. That's just not how the NBA has ever worked.

Those picks will most likely never be as good as the Lakers current assests (as shitty as you might think those assets might be). It doesn't change the reality of nba draft busts

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:22 am to
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They have max leverage over the Lakers right now.

And yet they still aren't satisfied with what the Lakers are offering.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:22 am to
yes. ingram's salary issues make him a negative asset (on the Pelicans)

ball, ingram, kuz, and zub are all about to get paid and the Pelicans would be stuck with those 4 as their core (if they'd sign here)

you think that group is going to be a playoff team anytime soon?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:23 am to
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Everyone disagrees


This is a lie

My opinion is the majority opinion across the internet
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:25 am to
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Dude you're stuck in this mindset that "picks" is more valuable than current production

we are a rebuilding team. what we don't need to do is overpay and add salary to remove flexibility

picks often don't pan out, but they are necessary to rebuild due to the salary controls

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That's just not how the NBA has ever worked.

and when has being over the cap and a non-playoff team ever worked?

quote:

Those picks will most likely never be as good as the Lakers current assests

even if this is correct, then the Pels will be given the opportunity to discard them without biting the salary bullet

and the Pelicans would have their own top-lottery picks during the rebuild, as opposed to late lottery picks with the LAL shite sandwich
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:25 am to
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This is a lie

My opinion is the majority opinion across the internet




Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:25 am to
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Brown + their assortment of 1sts > LAL's offer, as is 

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Boston's picks will likely never be as good as Lakers assets (past NBA data confirms this)


you're failing to take salary into account 

if the LAL assets were under rookie deals (as in they were rookies), it would be a great deal. your argument above assumes this 


Brown is eligible for FA identically to Ingram.

The cap argument is weird to me bc NO has 93 million free pre-exceptions when Ingram/Brown are eligible for a QO under their current roster. They're closer to the floor than ceiling.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:26 am to
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Dude you're stuck in this mindset that "picks" is more valuable than current production. That's just not how the NBA has ever worked.

Huh?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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91527 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:27 am to
Probably faster than Brown and some picks, no?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476961 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:28 am to
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Brown is eligible for FA identically to Ingram.

and if he has unrealistic salary demands, we'd deal him. i don't think he'll demand the early max, but if he does, oh well

the picks are the real value (even if they're not top 3)

ALL of the lakers' assets have salary issues impending very soon. that makes those assets highly volatile and possibly negative in value. the Pels won't even get a shot to properly evaluate them EVEN IF none demand the early max

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They're closer to the floor than ceiling.


awesome. then we can accumulate free picks taking bad salary for a few years while we rebuild
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:28 am to
Yeah.

What an insane position. Picks are almost always more valuable BEFORE the player is picked than the player themselves.

That is not even a question. What a loon.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476961 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:29 am to
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Probably faster than Brown and some picks, no?

the answer is no. that's not a playoff team
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:30 am to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:31 am to
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Picks are almost always more valuable BEFORE the player is picked than the player themselves. 


This is wrong historically

The Laker players involved in this deal have performed above the level of your average first round pick

Stop lying


Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91527 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:33 am to


Fine.


But I don't think anyone in NO will be too thrilled watching Brown(whose contract has to be coming up soon) and some what, players picked 10th-15th?

Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:33 am to
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The Laker players involved in this deal have performed above the level of your average first round pick

Omg
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476961 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:33 am to
as opposed to being at/over the cap and not having a shot at the playoffs?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:33 am to
OMG what?

Use data when replying to me. Not emotional tantrums
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:33 am to
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The Laker players involved in this deal have performed above the level of your average first round pick



Dude just stop. There is no good argument for trading AD right now from the Pelicans perspective. None.

Notice the only people who think AD should be traded right now are Lakers fans and those associated with the Lakers.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
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