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re: Annual "History of the CFB Playoff Committee Decisions" Thread
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:49 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 10/31/22 at 2:49 pm to Jack Ruby
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The committee is using an analytical formula thag takes into account margin of victory, scoring efficiency, strength or schedule, etc.
I didn't know that, is there a link that talks about it? I'd be interested to know more.
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don't know why people still think they are randomly coming up with playoff decisions.
I didn't know they used a formula, but I don't think their thinking was "random" either. In most cases at least 3 of the teams are pretty open and shut, and the 4th team comes down to who has the best resume. Which again, more often than not is a pretty easy decision to make if you have a gropu of logical thinkers in the room.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 4:35 pm to RunningJacket
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continues at 7p in Tuscaloosa
Would ironically better LSU’s chances.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 4:38 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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I bet an 11-1 Vols team would get in over a 12-1 Clemson or 12-1 TCU.
Not if Clemson and TCU won their conference.
If they lost the championship game, I could see it.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 6:03 pm to WG_Dawg
The three worst selections in the playoff era are Ohio State in 2014 and 2020, and Alabama in 2017.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:03 pm to lsusa
Didn't Bama win the natty in 2017?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:09 pm to Rolltide10
So did Ohio State in 2014.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:11 pm to LSUBoo
Correct to both but they were still bad choices in 2014 and 2017
Problem in 2017 they weren’t putting the 3 loss Auburn team in that just lost and they really screwed Baylor/TCU in 2014
I still agree with leaving Penn St out in 2016 that year bc they got stomped by Michigan and lost to a shite Pitt team
Problem in 2017 they weren’t putting the 3 loss Auburn team in that just lost and they really screwed Baylor/TCU in 2014
I still agree with leaving Penn St out in 2016 that year bc they got stomped by Michigan and lost to a shite Pitt team
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:24 am to metallica81788
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Correct to both but they were still bad choices in 2014 and 2017
who should have gone in those team's places? The teams with more losses and worse resumes?
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:38 am to Jim Hopper
I hope they see how much of a fraud TCU and that whole conference is. They don’t belong with the big boys.
We could say the same about Clemson if 2018 Bama had done its job.
We could say the same about Clemson if 2018 Bama had done its job.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:47 am to lsusa
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The three worst selections in the playoff era are Ohio State in 2014 and 2020, and Alabama in 2017.
please, share with us who should have gone over them in those years. I'd love to hear the explanation.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:36 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:Clemson won of their both playoffs games against the #3 and #1 team by 27 & 28 points and went back to the NC the next year. There was nothing fraud about that team.
We could say the same about Clemson if 2018 Bama had done its job.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:40 am to Jim Hopper
Uhh, the 2018 Clemson team was the first team in college football history to go 15-0 and was loaded with NFL talent. There was nothing fraudulent about them.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 6:13 pm to WG_Dawg
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please, share with us who should have gone over them in those years. I'd love to hear the explanation.
In 2014- either TCU or Baylor should have gone ahead of Ohio state.
In 2017- the simple question is “should Alabama have made the playoffs over Auburn”? The narrow minded answer
Is “nah they had three losses” and Alabama had one. The real answer is a resounding “no”. Alabama lost head to head to Auburn and finished behind them in the division. Auburn’s OOC and Eastern Division opponents were stronger.
With that said - Auburn didn’t belong in the playoff - so how could Alabama?
In 2020- big 10 changed the rules to let Ohio State in the conference championship game.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 6:23 pm to lsusa
2 of those years you didn't even answer the question I asked, and the one actual answer you provided you gave no reason why.
You are just another in a long line of lsu tards that can only see as far as "bama. Bad. Bama. Special privilege. Not fair."
You are just another in a long line of lsu tards that can only see as far as "bama. Bad. Bama. Special privilege. Not fair."
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:28 pm to WG_Dawg
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2 of those years you didn't even answer the question I asked, and the one actual answer you provided you gave no reason why.
2014- Baylor and TCU were conference champs. OSU was not. OSU’s loss at home to Va Tech was worse than the respective losses for TCU & Baylor.
2017- Wisconsin had more wins than Alabama. They were undefeated during the regular season and lost in their conference championship game. Alabama didn’t even make theirs….they were essentially “rewarded” for NOT winning their division which is back assward.!!! UCF was more deserving, and you could probably make a case that OSU was as well.
2021 - is purely about the big ten conference changing it’s rules after play started. That’s BS.
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You are just another in a long line of lsu tards that can only see as far as "bama. Bad. Bama. Special privilege. Not fair."
Not hardly.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:29 am to lsusa
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2014- Baylor and TCU were conference champs. OSU was not.
OSU beat wisconsin 59-0 in the title game to win the big 10. OSU was an outright conference winner (unlike the other 2 schools mentioned, who shared) and had 1 additional win. Baylor lost to an unranked WVU. TCU lost to baylor so not sure why they'd have precedence.
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2017- Wisconsin had more wins than Alabama. They were undefeated during the regular season and lost in their conference championship game. Alabama didn’t even make theirs….they were essentially “rewarded” for NOT winning their division which is back assward.!!! UCF was more deserving, and you could probably make a case that OSU was as well.
Bama would beat teams that ended the CFP rankings ranked 17th and 23rd. Wisconsin's only ranked win was over a team that finished the same poll 21st. Both teams had a "quality loss"; bama's on the road to a team ranked in the top 2 at game time that almost made the playoffs, wisconsin's at a neutral site to a team that almost made the playoffs. We have here 2 teams that didn't win their conference and both ended with 1 loss. Both teams had a single quality loss. Bama played a tougher schedule and had better wins.
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2021 - is purely about the big ten conference changing it’s rules after play started. That’s BS.
What does the big 10 have to do with committee selections? In 2020 if you think OSu shouldn't have made it, that means you think texas a&M (or someone else) SHOULD have in their place. There was nobody else.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:40 am to lsusa
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2014- Baylor and TCU were conference champs. OSU was not.
Sure about that?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:19 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Sure about that?
I was incorrect. OSU was conference champion in 2014. They lost to Va Tech 7 –6, 3–5 in ACC
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:24 am to lsusa
Bump for selection night.
UGA, Ohio STate, Michigan, TCU, Oregon, USC, and UCLA are all in full control of their own destiny in the playoffs. Win out, and you're in. Simple as that. One of OSu/UM will eliminate the other one, and the Pac 12 will sort itself out between those 3 teams. USC and UCLA have to play each other so the winner should come out of that with 1-loss and play in the CCG against a 1-loss oregon.
clemson is a tough one in that everyone can see that they aren't very good, but if they win out they're a 1-loss P5 champ and the committee has shown that that's a sweet spot where you're looking good. Let's also consider UNC who is also sitting at 1 loss and would end up having to play clemson in the ACCCG. You have to think whoever comes out of the ACC, as long as it's with 1 loss, is in good shape. Although it very well may dpeend on the other conference winners. If you have 0/1 loss champs of the SEC, Big 10, PAC, and Big 12, I can definitely see the ACC champ being left out.
LSu is in the same spot Auburn 2017 was but with a lesser resume. In 2017 had AU beaten us in the SECCG they would have been a mortal lock, but it'd be because they beat #1 UGA, #1 alabama, and #whatever UGA in about a month span. Their 2 losses were @Clemson early and @LSu by a comnbined 12 points. This LSu team lost in Louisiana to a bad FSU and got oblitereated at home by (a highly ranked) Tennessee. An SEC championship would include wins over ole miss, alabama, and UGA, but does that cancel out the losses? Would be very interesting to see and again would depend on the other p5 champs. Ole miss does NOT control their destiny, but with having just 1 loss if they get help to win the west they would be in great shape as a 1 loss SEC champ.
Tennessee will still be ranked high this evening but honestly they're near he bottom of any tiered list because they control nothing. They have a loss and will not win their division, and by extension will obviously not be a p5 conference champion. So they are out unless they get A LOT of help.
Then at the very bottom of the list you have teams with 2 losses that for all practical purposes are done. This would be alabama, utah, penn state, NC State, etc.
UGA, Ohio STate, Michigan, TCU, Oregon, USC, and UCLA are all in full control of their own destiny in the playoffs. Win out, and you're in. Simple as that. One of OSu/UM will eliminate the other one, and the Pac 12 will sort itself out between those 3 teams. USC and UCLA have to play each other so the winner should come out of that with 1-loss and play in the CCG against a 1-loss oregon.
clemson is a tough one in that everyone can see that they aren't very good, but if they win out they're a 1-loss P5 champ and the committee has shown that that's a sweet spot where you're looking good. Let's also consider UNC who is also sitting at 1 loss and would end up having to play clemson in the ACCCG. You have to think whoever comes out of the ACC, as long as it's with 1 loss, is in good shape. Although it very well may dpeend on the other conference winners. If you have 0/1 loss champs of the SEC, Big 10, PAC, and Big 12, I can definitely see the ACC champ being left out.
LSu is in the same spot Auburn 2017 was but with a lesser resume. In 2017 had AU beaten us in the SECCG they would have been a mortal lock, but it'd be because they beat #1 UGA, #1 alabama, and #whatever UGA in about a month span. Their 2 losses were @Clemson early and @LSu by a comnbined 12 points. This LSu team lost in Louisiana to a bad FSU and got oblitereated at home by (a highly ranked) Tennessee. An SEC championship would include wins over ole miss, alabama, and UGA, but does that cancel out the losses? Would be very interesting to see and again would depend on the other p5 champs. Ole miss does NOT control their destiny, but with having just 1 loss if they get help to win the west they would be in great shape as a 1 loss SEC champ.
Tennessee will still be ranked high this evening but honestly they're near he bottom of any tiered list because they control nothing. They have a loss and will not win their division, and by extension will obviously not be a p5 conference champion. So they are out unless they get A LOT of help.
Then at the very bottom of the list you have teams with 2 losses that for all practical purposes are done. This would be alabama, utah, penn state, NC State, etc.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:30 am to WG_Dawg
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Ole Miss is a team that fits the mold above in that if they don't lose again they'd be a 1-loss SECC and in, so while yes it is possible it's not very likely as they'd have to beat both bama and uga which seems unlikely for ole miss. But ulatimely they DO control their destiny as of now.
No they don't. They also need LSU to lose another SEC game or they get no shot at UGA.
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