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re: American Pharoah vs. Secretariat; Side-by-Side Synched Videos
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:17 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:17 pm to lsupride87
That's what they told you
They turned him into dog food for my lab.
They turned him into dog food for my lab.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:18 pm to Fearthehat0307
I said I think secretariat ran hard based on his jockeys statement. If you aren't trolling, tell me how that is me alluding to a horses mindset?
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:19 pm to Fearthehat0307
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secretariat was giving it his all even though he had a lead way bigger than AP's is pretty much saying you know the horse's mindset.
He was quoting the passenger who has a better idea than anyone else on earth how Secretariat was reacting.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:20 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:He won't acknowledge that
He was quoting the passenger who has a better idea than anyone else on earth how Secretariat was reacting.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:20 pm to hg
Big Red had the over sized heart, Secretariat was the greatest competing horse to ever set foot on a track.
From what I heard the analysis say AP was very close to the same stride as Secretariat.
From what I heard the analysis say AP was very close to the same stride as Secretariat.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:27 pm to dnm3305
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It depends, did AP really have to be pushed at any point?
Yeah, what happened to the other horses that tried to run with Big Red. AP probably would have suffered the same fate.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:27 pm to roygu
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Yeah, what happened to the other horses that tried to run with Big Red
Some beat him?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:28 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:so he is using the words of a self proclaimed horse whisperer for his argument? got it
He was quoting the passenger who has a better idea than anyone else on earth how Secretariat was reacting.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:i must have missed that part. i didn't see it mentioned but feel free to keep up the trolling narrative
He won't acknowledge that
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:29 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Yeh I think very few people in this thread realize that. Secretariat was definitely the best horse in the triple crown races. But he lost 3 times in his racing career. Man o war like you said earlier is the true horse that couldn't be run with
Some beat him?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:29 pm to KosmoCramer
If there is no sham in the belmont in 73, big red never runs that fast, because he didn't have to to beat the rest of the horses.
With no sham there is no "secretariat". horses don't run a against a stop watch they run against other horses. it took 3 record breaking races to beat sham 3 times. You're basically penalizing AP becuase he didn't have to run against a sham
With no sham there is no "secretariat". horses don't run a against a stop watch they run against other horses. it took 3 record breaking races to beat sham 3 times. You're basically penalizing AP becuase he didn't have to run against a sham
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:30 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:Umm it is the words of his jockey. I think his jockey is a pretty good source
so he is using the words of a self proclaimed horse whisperer for his argument? got it
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
quote:going back and reading that part, didn't his jockey say he thought about slowing him down but his breathing was good and he was fine (or something to that effect). to me that sounds like he was all good and could've been coasting and possibly went faster. which you disagree with
Umm it is the words of his jockey. I think his jockey is a pretty good source
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:34 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:In the quote, the jockey also says it is the hardest Red ever ran. That leads me to beleive for whatever reason Secretariat ran his hardest that day. I never said it was impossible Red couldn't run faster, I just said in my opinion it isn't likely
going back and reading that part, didn't his jockey say he thought about slowing him down but his breathing was good and he was fine (or something to that effect). to me that sounds like he was all good and could've been coasting and possibly went faster. which you disagree with
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:35 pm to lsupride87
Heck Sham would would have probably been a better match for AP. In the Derby experts estimated that Sham probably broke 2:00 minutes.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:35 pm to lsupride87
quote:i know when i'm running at max capacity my breathing is not fine. if my breathing is fine i'm not going at max capacity
In the quote, the jockey also says it is the hardest Red ever ran. That leads me to beleive for whatever reason Secretariat ran his hardest that day. I never said it was impossible Red couldn't run faster, I just said in my opinion it isn't likely
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
This threads keeps moving, like a tremendous machine!
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:37 pm to 40 Rouge
It is getting better this last page. We are actually talking about horses again 
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:38 pm to roygu
UMMMM... yall do know that American Pharoah is a 5th descendant of Secretariat.
So I guess technically they did run together (one only in part) and they tied!
Seriously
With Secretariat having a heart almost 3 times the size of a normal horse and a stride length of 28 feet, I would have to say that ol'Pappy would take him. Then again what am I saying, Hell he's dead, and of course American Pharoah would take him today

So I guess technically they did run together (one only in part) and they tied!
Seriously
With Secretariat having a heart almost 3 times the size of a normal horse and a stride length of 28 feet, I would have to say that ol'Pappy would take him. Then again what am I saying, Hell he's dead, and of course American Pharoah would take him today
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 3:39 pm
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